We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Missing Pension

2

Comments

  • Baird special pension fund

    Rivers Edge

    11 Ravenhill Road

    Belfast

    United Kingdom

    BT6 8DN

    Telephone

    028 96931260

  • Baird group

    Workers pension trust

    Workers Pension Trust

    143 Malone Road

    BELFAST

    United Kingdom

    BT9 6SX

    Telephone

    02890877142

  • Cptralls
    Cptralls Posts: 229 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    I'll give Baird Group a call tomorrow. 
  • Marcon
    Marcon Posts: 15,085 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    SieIso said:
    An intriguing topic - in 2013 employers were obliged to make contributions so there must be something for you somewhere. 
    Not necessarily. Auto enrolment was being introduced in stages, and staging date depended on size, with the biggest employers having the earliest staging dates. The staging date for the smallest employers was 2017.
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • Marcon
    Marcon Posts: 15,085 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Brie said:
    Given that it was in 2013 my guess is that it was a defined contribution plan.  And if you were there no more than a year or so it's possible that you might have had a full refund of your contributions so there's no nest egg (even a tiddly one) awaiting your retirement.  But if you can't find anything specifically related you might want to check if it was contributing to a NEST pension as many temping/contracting employers use that rather than set up their own in house scheme.  Wondering too if HMRC would have any record of where you worked (well they will do but how accessible that is I wouldn't know).  
    Only if it was an occupational defined contribution scheme (by 2013 these were very rare - and in 2015 the law changed . Personal pensions give immediate vesting, no matter how short the service, unless the individual cancels their contract within 30 days. The law changed on 1 October 2015 to bring occupational DC schemes in line with this requirement.

    DB schemes can still refund contributions where a member has under two years' scheme membership, although the rules can permit other things.
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • Cptralls said:
    I'll give Baird Group a call tomorrow. 
    Let us know how you get on
  • Cptralls
    Cptralls Posts: 229 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Jonty6262 said:
    Cptralls said:
    I'll give Baird Group a call tomorrow. 
    Let us know how you get on
    Nothing with them, unfortunately. I was also put in touch with Alix who oversaw the winding down of the Ben Sherman group I worked for, I think I am coming to the end of the line. Whilst any pension pot would have been modest, it seems to be lost forever. 
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,309 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Cptralls said:
    Jonty6262 said:
    Cptralls said:
    I'll give Baird Group a call tomorrow. 
    Let us know how you get on
    Nothing with them, unfortunately. I was also put in touch with Alix who oversaw the winding down of the Ben Sherman group I worked for, I think I am coming to the end of the line. Whilst any pension pot would have been modest, it seems to be lost forever. 
    It is possible that the period in question had no pension scheme available and was just a hollow stakeholder pension.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Cptralls
    Cptralls Posts: 229 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 23 February 2023 at 11:44AM
    dunstonh said:
    Cptralls said:
    Jonty6262 said:
    Cptralls said:
    I'll give Baird Group a call tomorrow. 
    Let us know how you get on
    Nothing with them, unfortunately. I was also put in touch with Alix who oversaw the winding down of the Ben Sherman group I worked for, I think I am coming to the end of the line. Whilst any pension pot would have been modest, it seems to be lost forever. 
    It is possible that the period in question had no pension scheme available and was just a hollow stakeholder pension.
    My memory is vague as it was from ten years ago and I wasn't with the company very long but there was something at the time,  I sens the company may not have set it up, and hence why it is currently missing. 
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,309 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Cptralls said:
    dunstonh said:
    Cptralls said:
    Jonty6262 said:
    Cptralls said:
    I'll give Baird Group a call tomorrow. 
    Let us know how you get on
    Nothing with them, unfortunately. I was also put in touch with Alix who oversaw the winding down of the Ben Sherman group I worked for, I think I am coming to the end of the line. Whilst any pension pot would have been modest, it seems to be lost forever. 
    It is possible that the period in question had no pension scheme available and was just a hollow stakeholder pension.
    My memory is vague as it was from ten years ago and I wasn't with the company very long but there was something at the time,  I sent the company may not have set it up, and hence why it is currently missing. 
    That is why I think it may have been a hollow stakeholder pension.   In 2001, companies were required to offer a stakeholder pension, if they had no other pension scheme available.  They had to nominate a provider and make you aware of it.  However, they didn't have to pay into it and because of that most employees never bothered with it.

    If you had set one up, they would have sent you annual statements.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.