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  • SusieT
    SusieT Posts: 1,267 Forumite
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    Sourcrates, we’ve been paying the credit cards, next, PayPal after the rent, council tax , electric water but obviously not keeping money for food and petrol, haircut etc. We thought these are classed as priority as well.
    You pay rernt, council tax, gas/electric, water as priority bills. Food is not a bill, but it is a priority so you need to make sure you have enough for that. Look at Olio for your area, and Too Good to Go (both apps for free or cheap food). Make a list of what is in the fridge and cupboards and post on the old fashioned board lower down, they have great threads that will use what you have rather than you needing to buy food, so may help you get through the month. 
    As has been said above, do the SOA and stop paying the cards, that will probably mean cancelling any direct debits if they automatcally take payment from your bank account. Right now the worst they can and will do is phone you (hang up and block their number for now), and write scary letters that you can ignore for now. 
    Then when you have posted the SOA people will give you help.
    Oh, also worth posting on the benefits board here to check that you are receiving all that you are entitled to
    Credit card debt - NIL
    Home improvement secured loans 30,130/41,000 and 23,156/28,000 End 2027 and 2029
    Mortgage 64,513/100,000 End Nov 2035
    2022 all rolling into new mortgage + extra to finish house. 125,000 End 2036
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 32,033 Ambassador
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     With out the credit cards and catalogue, we would be able to eat , petrol , get a haircut😀 I’ve had six months off work with hemiplegic migraines, they are like having a stroke. Takes me a while to recover, hence losing time at work and debt spiralling. I can’t afford the treatment for this either as I have it at a private practice every three months £130 now. I filled in the SOA and saved it but I don’t know where it went 
    Right, then don`t pay them, write to your creditors and explain your circumstances, tell them the debts are unaffordable, that you cannot afford food, and that you are in serious trouble here, they will put your accounts on hold, nothing will happen, affordability is everything, but you must tell them about your situation.

    How much non priority debt do you have ?
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Non priority debt is £19800. 
  • There will be a way out of this, but without an accurate SOA we can't tell you which way to go.

    Don't rush the SOA it needs to be accurate.
    If you go down to the woods today you better not go alone.
  • [font=courier new][b]Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet[/b][b]

    Household Information[/b]
    Number of adults in household........... 3
    Number of children in household......... 
    Number of cars owned.................... 2[b]

    Monthly Income Details[/b]
    Monthly income after tax................ 900
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 1500
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0[b]
    Total monthly income.................... 2400[/b][b]

    Monthly Expense Details[/b]
    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 646.2
    Rent.................................... 497.32
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 153
    Electricity............................. 140
    Gas..................................... 0
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 38.84
    Telephone (land line)................... 0
    Mobile phone............................ 105
    TV Licence.............................. 13.37
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 20
    Internet Services....................... 42.99
    Groceries etc. ......................... 200
    Clothing................................ 50
    Petrol/diesel........................... 200
    Road tax................................ 28.82
    Car Insurance........................... 156.99
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 200
    Car parking............................. 10
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 21.62
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 11
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 15.65
    Life assurance ......................... 16.17
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 200
    Haircuts................................ 40
    Entertainment........................... 50
    Holiday................................. 500
    Emergency fund.......................... 0[b]
    Total monthly expenses.................. 3356.97[/b]
    [b]

    Assets[/b]
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 12000
    Other assets............................ 0[b]
    Total Assets............................ 12000[/b]
    [b]

    Secured & HP Debts[/b]
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(0)........0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 12099....(281.3)....14.9<
    Hire purchase..................35041....(364.9)....9.4[b]
    Total secured & HP debts...... 47140.....-.........-   [/b]

    [b]Unsecured Debts[/b]
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Barclaycard....................6000......286.......29.18
    Aqua...........................8000......300.......37.98
    Next...........................3194......159.......23.9
    Paypal.........................2500......145.......0[b]
    Total unsecured debts..........19694.....890.......-  [/b]

    [b]
    Monthly Budget Summary[/b]
    Total monthly income.................... 2,400
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 3,356.97
    Available for debt repayments........... -956.97
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 890[b]
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -1,846.97[/b]

    [b]Personal Balance Sheet Summary[/b]
    Total assets (things you own)........... 12,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -47,140
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -19,694[b]
    Net Assets.............................. -54,834[/b]

    [i]Created using the SOA calculator at www.LemonFool.co.uk.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.[/i][/font]
  • Somethings like entertainment, clothes etc we haven’t been doing obviously. I feel so much better already for joining this forum. My husband said he will sleep better tonight. 
  • I’ve guessed food, car maintenance, clothes, birthdays etc
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 32,033 Ambassador
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    edited 17 February 2023 at 4:32PM
    Sourcrates, we’ve been paying the credit cards, next, PayPal after the rent, council tax , electric water but obviously not keeping money for food and petrol, haircut etc. We thought these are classed as priority as well.
    No, any unsecured credit debt, when you are struggling, is non priority, don`t worry, it can be sorted, however your budget shows a massive deficit no amount of cutting back will rectify.

    What is the 47k hire purchase for ?

    That`s a massive part of your outgoings.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Who is the third adult  ?

    Do they contribute ?

    £500 holiday what is that for ?
    If you go down to the woods today you better not go alone.
  • comeandgo
    comeandgo Posts: 5,930 Forumite
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    Is your car insurance and maintenance per month or an error?  What sort of vehicles have you?
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