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Internal Soil Pipe

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  • Norman_Castle
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    edited 17 February 2023 at 9:46PM
    grumbler said:
    Can narrower rectangular pipe be used to reduce the area the pipe takes. The type often used for extractor fan venting? Is there similar watertight pipe for plumbing?
    Why rectangular, not round - especially as adaptors for ducting are 100mm and soil pipe is 110mm? If you mean rectangular with the same cross-section, then the difference in size will be minuscule - 11%.
    I am no expert, but what I see is

    Replacing 100mm round pipe with 50mm x X wide giving the same area would be a 50% reduction in  depth. 

  • plumb1_2
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    grumbler said:
    Can narrower rectangular pipe be used to reduce the area the pipe takes. The type often used for extractor fan venting? Is there similar watertight pipe for plumbing?
    Why rectangular, not round - especially as adaptors for ducting are 100mm and soil pipe is 110mm? If you mean rectangular with the same cross-section, then the difference in size will be minuscule - 11%.
    I am no expert, but what I see is

    Replacing 100mm round pipe with 50mm x X wide giving the same area would be a 50% reduction in  depth. 

    If a plumber did that they’d be shouting of cowboys
  • MikeJXE
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    Apodemus said:
    grumbler said:
    MikeJXE said:


    IMO it would be better to relocate it to outside 
    Unfortunately, AFAIK, the valve can't be outside (of a house)

    I was assuming that MikeJXE was meaning conversion to a traditional vent stack, rather than an AAV?
    Thats true, take it up- past the edge of the roof 
  • grumbler
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    plumb1_2 said:
    grumbler said:
    Can narrower rectangular pipe be used to reduce the area the pipe takes. The type often used for extractor fan venting? Is there similar watertight pipe for plumbing?
    Why rectangular, not round - especially as adaptors for ducting are 100mm and soil pipe is 110mm? If you mean rectangular with the same cross-section, then the difference in size will be minuscule - 11%.
    I am no expert, but what I see is

    Replacing 100mm round pipe with 50mm x X wide giving the same area would be a 50% reduction in  depth. 

    If a plumber did that they’d be shouting of cowboys

    Who they and why?
  • plumb1_2
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    MikeJXE said:
    Apodemus said:
    grumbler said:
    MikeJXE said:


    IMO it would be better to relocate it to outside 
    Unfortunately, AFAIK, the valve can't be outside (of a house)

    I was assuming that MikeJXE was meaning conversion to a traditional vent stack, rather than an AAV?
    Thats true, take it up- past the edge of the roof 
    1 mtr above any opening windows min.
  • MikeJXE
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    grumbler said:
    Can narrower rectangular pipe be used to reduce the area the pipe takes. The type often used for extractor fan venting? Is there similar watertight pipe for plumbing?
    Why rectangular, not round - especially as adaptors for ducting are 100mm and soil pipe is 110mm? If you mean rectangular with the same cross-section, then the difference in size will be minuscule - 11%.
    I am no expert, but what I see is

    Replacing 100mm round pipe with 50mm x X wide giving the same area would be a 50% reduction in  depth. 

    Not possible to be square as solids would collect in the corners

  • grumbler
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    edited 17 February 2023 at 10:43PM
    MikeJXE said:
    grumbler said:
    Can narrower rectangular pipe be used to reduce the area the pipe takes. The type often used for extractor fan venting? Is there similar watertight pipe for plumbing?
    Why rectangular, not round - especially as adaptors for ducting are 100mm and soil pipe is 110mm? If you mean rectangular with the same cross-section, then the difference in size will be minuscule - 11%.
    I am no expert, but what I see is

    Replacing 100mm round pipe with 50mm x X wide giving the same area would be a 50% reduction in  depth. 

    Not possible to be square as solids would collect in the corners

    What solids?! It's a vent pipe. Only air.
    But yes, it has to start at certain height.

  • MikeJXE
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    grumbler said:
    MikeJXE said:
    grumbler said:
    Can narrower rectangular pipe be used to reduce the area the pipe takes. The type often used for extractor fan venting? Is there similar watertight pipe for plumbing?
    Why rectangular, not round - especially as adaptors for ducting are 100mm and soil pipe is 110mm? If you mean rectangular with the same cross-section, then the difference in size will be minuscule - 11%.
    I am no expert, but what I see is

    Replacing 100mm round pipe with 50mm x X wide giving the same area would be a 50% reduction in  depth. 

    Not possible to be square as solids would collect in the corners

    What solids?! It's a vent pipe. Only air.
    But yes, it has to start at certain height.

    It's not just a vent pipe it carries solids from the loo downwards into the drain 
  • grumbler
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    No, I think the suggestion was for the vent pipe only.
  • MikeJXE said:
    grumbler said:
    MikeJXE said:
    grumbler said:
    Can narrower rectangular pipe be used to reduce the area the pipe takes. The type often used for extractor fan venting? Is there similar watertight pipe for plumbing?
    Why rectangular, not round - especially as adaptors for ducting are 100mm and soil pipe is 110mm? If you mean rectangular with the same cross-section, then the difference in size will be minuscule - 11%.
    I am no expert, but what I see is

    Replacing 100mm round pipe with 50mm x X wide giving the same area would be a 50% reduction in  depth. 

    Not possible to be square as solids would collect in the corners

    What solids?! It's a vent pipe. Only air.
    But yes, it has to start at certain height.

    It's not just a vent pipe it carries solids from the loo downwards into the drain 
    Above the height of any toilet or sink or bath drain it is just a vent so why does it need to be either round or of the same size as pipework which carries waste water? The question was does this exist which the answer seems to be no although its not clear why not. I understand why the soil pipe is 100mm but why does the vent pipe need to be the same size?

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