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Parking spaces not wide enough to open car doors

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  • mi-key
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    KC14 said:
    I measured the width of the parking space - The width between the white lines is 2.2m. I believe a standard space is 2.4m wide?
    That is pretty small, a range rover or similar 4x4 is 1.9m wide. Even modern saloons aren't much narrower
  • user1977
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    KC14 said:
    I measured the width of the parking space - The width between the white lines is 2.2m. I believe a standard space is 2.4m wide?
    Bit cosy but still sounds usable. Are you not including the width of the white lines at all, as that's usable space? What sort of car are we talking about?
  • eddddy
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    edited 12 February 2023 at 10:02PM
    KC14 said:
    I measured the width of the parking space - The width between the white lines is 2.2m. I believe a standard space is 2.4m wide?

    I guess that's an interesting piece of background information.

    But that piece of information isn't going to make it any easier to get the layout of the parking area changed.


    But perhaps it's a justification for offering less for the house. i.e. The parking space isn't full size - so you can't park a large car in it. So the parking space isn't as valuable as a full sized parking space.

    (A bit like you might say: "The third bedroom is too small to be a proper single bedroom, because you can't get a single bed and wardrobe in it - so I'm offering less than I would if it was a standard sized single bedroom.")

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    edited 24 January at 5:59PM
    KC14 said:

    There is on street parking for visitors. The parking in question is in a private courtyard that is accessed through an archway under a coach house. I looked on the local council's planning portal last night and couldn't see anything about the parking.
    Often when properties or built or developed adequate on site parking is a planning requirement. The original planning permission will give the information needed. Permissions often state X amount of parking which cannot be changed or used for any other purpose.
    How have people parked there for the last 13 years?

    It's shear incompetence, the same as mandating garages that are too small for most cars.
    Hi

    In defence of the builders, it is not "shear inco..." but sheer greed.  The smaller the so-called garage, the more room in the house
    and less to build a house as if a wider longer garage the house itself may have to be bigger. Parking spaces, land costs loads of money so the smaller the space the cheaper it is

    Thnaks
    I meant the people making that planning rules and requirements for space. They sound require the garage to be a minimum size suitable for a car, and also the rest of the house should meet the minimum requirements for human habitation.

    Or find some way to require more cars to be a suitable size for existing garages.  I just looked up the Fiesta and in 40 years it got 30cm wider and 40 cm longer...
    Those old cars were not very safe, and often not very easy to get in and out of either. Especially with kids. Anyway, we are where we are.
  • KC14 said:
    I measured the width of the parking space - The width between the white lines is 2.2m. I believe a standard space is 2.4m wide?
    The norm is 2.4m, but the recommended is 2.8m.

    2.2m is too small, but there is no legal minimum so not a lot you can do other than complain.
  • 35har1old
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    KC14 said:
    There is an elderly lady in number 1 and she doesn't have a car so her spaces are empty. My neighbour parks one car at the front of their house and one in the middle of their 2 parking spaces at the back so you can get in and out easily. 
    If a family was to move in to number 1 in the future it would cause issues with parking as they wouldn't be able to park 2 cars in their spaces or another at the front as its a dead end outside their house.

    I'll have a look at my sisters deeds and see what they say.

    There is a 1.8 fence to the left of the bays and a gate which gives access to number 1 and a low fence to the right which surrounds a high flower bed. You can reverse into the spaces but you still wouldnt be able to open the car door to get out if another car was parked next to you. It is an issue across the whole development and mostly visible on shared drives where people can only park 1 car on the oppiste end of the drive to their neighbour.


    If you reverse one car in keeping close to outside of your space then reverse park the other keeping close to the first car parked would that not allow yo to exit the car. The reason for reverse parking is you can see the lines and car beside you. 
  • Postik
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    Put a cone in the visitor spot, and then agree with your neighbours to park a sensible distance apart ignoring the lines
  • p00hsticks
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    Given that the OP says that currently one neighbour is eldery and doesn't own a car at all so doesn't use either of her parking spaces, another neighbour parks one car across their two spaces and the OP only has one car and would also be allocated two spaces, it sounds as if this is something that is more about potential problems for  future resale and ' what if' scenarios if  ownership of any of the properties changed rather than something that is going to pose an immediate problem for the OP if they buy the property.
  • diystarter7
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    Section62 said:

    Or find some way to require more cars to be a suitable size for existing garages.  I just looked up the Fiesta and in 40 years it got 30cm wider and 40 cm longer...
    Some of that is due to improvements in passenger protection, particularly for side impacts.

    We are also in a much better place in terms of deaths and serious injuries suffered by vehicle occupants than we were 40 years ago.

    There's also a lot more equipment to fit under the bonnet than there was for the typical family car 40 years ago.

    All true - yet manufacturers do manage to make cars the same size as the old ones - just not many models - so maybe they have little incentive to do so.
    They make what customers will buy, buyers want the most car for the money. Test drives should include garages and parking spaces.
    Parking spaces could be doubled in size but then people would complain there's less of them and no where to park.

    Hi

    And crossover as cars can bottom out as one of our neighbours found out the hard way when they their brand new M3

    It is incredible that people don't think about so many things before buying

    Perhaps that could be part of the driving theory test

    :)
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