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  • KeithP
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    edited 24 February 2023 at 7:50PM
    If it's just a second copy of exactly the same Claim Form then, other than possible confusion, I cannot see what harm can be done.

    Maybe a phone call on Monday to the County Court Business Centre - number on the Claim Form - to express your concerns would be a good idea.
  • Johnersh
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    Note that the contract is at the time of the parking event, so the signage now may be irrelevant. 

    C will have to prove what signage was there in 2017 and subsequently. That may not be entirely easy. 
  • Coupon-mad
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    Someone else reported a duplicate claim form this week.  CCBC are having a mare.
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  • jmfc
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    Johnersh said:
    Note that the contract is at the time of the parking event, so the signage now may be irrelevant. 

    C will have to prove what signage was there in 2017 and subsequently. That may not be entirely easy. 
    OK thanks for that, I'll bear it in mind once we are at the WS stage.

    As the majority of our defence is based on there being multiple PCNs that we have said we never received (they were thrown away & ignored as we stupidly thought they would 'go away') and the POC are spurious, is there any downside to putting in a SAR at this stage?  I wondered if receiving copies of the PCNs now would give the Claimant potential ammunition to fire back and negate the defence.
  • B789
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    jmfc said:
    As the majority of our defence is based on there being multiple PCNs that we have said we never received (they were thrown away & ignored as we stupidly thought they would 'go away') and the POC are spurious, is there any downside to putting in a SAR at this stage?  I wondered if receiving copies of the PCNs now would give the Claimant potential ammunition to fire back and negate the defence.
    5.  The Defendant received no PCNs (either on the vehicle or by post) and is unable, on the basis of the incoherent Particulars of Claim ('POC'), to understand properly and specifically what case is being pursued. 
    Whilst this is likely to end up discontinued based on the history of DCB Legal, had not the OP be wary of what is written in a statement of truth and what is claimed above?

  • Coupon-mad
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    jmfc said:
    Johnersh said:
    Note that the contract is at the time of the parking event, so the signage now may be irrelevant. 

    C will have to prove what signage was there in 2017 and subsequently. That may not be entirely easy. 
    OK thanks for that, I'll bear it in mind once we are at the WS stage.

    As the majority of our defence is based on there being multiple PCNs that we have said we never received 
    It can't be only based on that if you used the Template Defence, as advised earlier. It is not a defence to just say PCNs were not received. Hopefully she used the entire 27 paragraph forum defence, in which case, the Defendant has several points to their defence.
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  • jmfc
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    jmfc said:
    Johnersh said:
    Note that the contract is at the time of the parking event, so the signage now may be irrelevant. 

    C will have to prove what signage was there in 2017 and subsequently. That may not be entirely easy. 
    OK thanks for that, I'll bear it in mind once we are at the WS stage.

    As the majority of our defence is based on there being multiple PCNs that we have said we never received 
    It can't be only based on that if you used the Template Defence, as advised earlier. It is not a defence to just say PCNs were not received. Hopefully she used the entire 27 paragraph forum defence, in which case, the Defendant has several points to their defence.
    Yes the full defence template was used and the paragraphs you kindly gave me were added.

    I was wondering if a SAR at this stage (having already submitted the defence) would help me by revealing the hand that the Claimant is likely to show in Court or potentially taint us as liars as suggested by @B789 above
  • Coupon-mad
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    Yes a SAR is worth doing.
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