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Moving from prepayment metre to credit metre for gas

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  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    edited 2 February 2023 at 10:58AM
    Send us a pic of the leccy meter. If smart meters have been fitted, the leccy meter will have a comms hub mounted on top of it. Visibly obvious.
    They wouldn't fit a smart gas meter without also fitting a smart leccy meter, as it would be pointless, as it couldn't send data to the DCC network.
    But, if it is a smart meter, it probably won't work when switched to Octopus anyway, as it'll be SMETS1.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • macman said:
    Send us a pic of the leccy meter. If smart meters have been fitted, the leccy meter will have a comms hub mounted on top of it. Visibly obvious.
    They wouldn't fit a smart gas meter without also fitting a smart leccy meter, as it would be pointless, as it couldn't send data to the DCC network.
    But, if it is a smart meter, it probably won't work when switched to Octopus anyway, as it'll be SMETS1.
    The electricity meter is an old dial one. Even though I'm looking to switch just gas, the leccy meter will have some bearing on it too?


  • MWT
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    edited 2 February 2023 at 11:43AM
    macman said:
    Send us a pic of the leccy meter. If smart meters have been fitted, the leccy meter will have a comms hub mounted on top of it. Visibly obvious.
    They wouldn't fit a smart gas meter without also fitting a smart leccy meter, as it would be pointless, as it couldn't send data to the DCC network.
    But, if it is a smart meter, it probably won't work when switched to Octopus anyway, as it'll be SMETS1.
    It is an odd one for sure, but they were fitting this SMETS1 meter in 2011, and the other interesting part is the battery life is around 10 years...
    I might be inclined to try a creep test to see if the meter is recording use with the main gas supply shut off, as it is a fault that is sometimes reported with meters of this type and age...

  • macman said:
    Send us a pic of the leccy meter. If smart meters have been fitted, the leccy meter will have a comms hub mounted on top of it. Visibly obvious.
    They wouldn't fit a smart gas meter without also fitting a smart leccy meter, as it would be pointless, as it couldn't send data to the DCC network.
    But, if it is a smart meter, it probably won't work when switched to Octopus anyway, as it'll be SMETS1.
    The electricity meter is an old dial one. Even though I'm looking to switch just gas, the leccy meter will have some bearing on it too?
    In which case your “smart” gas meter will be operating in dumb mode as it needs the hub associated with eccentricity SM to report back to base, and your current supplier cannot do a remote switch to to credit mode. 

    In order to switch your gas to Octopus you will need a SM fitted to the electric supply. 
  • macman said:
    Send us a pic of the leccy meter. If smart meters have been fitted, the leccy meter will have a comms hub mounted on top of it. Visibly obvious.
    They wouldn't fit a smart gas meter without also fitting a smart leccy meter, as it would be pointless, as it couldn't send data to the DCC network.
    But, if it is a smart meter, it probably won't work when switched to Octopus anyway, as it'll be SMETS1.
    The electricity meter is an old dial one. Even though I'm looking to switch just gas, the leccy meter will have some bearing on it too?
    In which case your “smart” gas meter will be operating in dumb mode as it needs the hub associated with eccentricity SM to report back to base, and your current supplier cannot do a remote switch to to credit mode. 

    In order to switch your gas to Octopus you will need a SM fitted to the electric supply. 
    Octopus can actually switch if you're not on a smart meter in prepayment mode apparently.

    It's only if you have a smart meter on pay as you go/prepayment mode there will be a loss of gas according to the wording in the original post.
  • SwanJon
    SwanJon Posts: 2,340 Forumite
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    If it is a smart meter, is your credit history better so can you set up your own account with them?  You could close your Dad's and open your own, as if he's moving out and you're moving in.  Then get it switched to credit.
    My credit history is fine. Issue is I don't know if it is a smart meter. 
    Rule of thumb with those meters is if you put the card in the meter it isn't smart (The card tells the meter how much you bought).
    If you don't put the card in, it must get that information overthe air, and so should be smart.

    (There is another brand that has a keypad on for entering a number form your receipt)
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