Forcing boss to pay tax and national insurance advice!!! 1 February at 10:10AM in Employment, jobseeking & training 10 replies 556 views

fitzykev

I just spoke to an old friend and they where telling me they took a job with good intentions. But the boss keeps handing them 300 per week. They had worked another job before this but the business closed. While at that job everything was paid. They are also on universal credit and send there little girl to day care. When the wages stopped coming in as nothing was declared they obviously worried because they are claiming for day care for daughter but because wages are not showing it looks like they are at home so should not be claiming child care. My friend wants to force her bosses hand to do the correct thing for her and pay her tax and national insurance. How can she do this without spooking her boss and loosing her job? She has told me she is her bosses top seller so I'm sure boss won't want to loose her.

Undervalued

fitzykev said:

I just spoke to an old friend and they where telling me they took a job with good intentions. But the boss keeps handing them 300 per week. They had worked another job before this but the business closed. While at that job everything was paid. They are also on universal credit and send there little girl to day care. When the wages stopped coming in as nothing was declared they obviously worried because they are claiming for day care for daughter but because wages are not showing it looks like they are at home so should not be claiming child care. My friend wants to force her bosses hand to do the correct thing for her and pay her tax and national insurance. How can she do this without spooking her boss and loosing her job? She has told me she is her bosses top seller so I'm sure boss won't want to loose her.

In the real world, with great difficulty!

Providing she declares her income for tax purposes, as if self employed, then any comeback will be on her "employer". Frankly the best advice in these situations is to do that whilst finding another job. Once she has moved to a proper employer then she can shop the current one to HMRC and maybe make a claim for any entitlements she didn't get whilst working there.

Penguin_

Yes register as self employed & get her to declare her earnings that way.

fitzykev

I was thinking of telling her that her work coach from uni credit has asked her to upload wage slips. That she does not know if its every wage slip or just one as a one off? 

SiliconChip

She needs to get a different job (if she's the top seller then it should be a doddle to find something that pays better than £15,000 a year) and then report her employer to HMRC.

superbigal

Agree with above.  Top Seller and may well be on below minimum wage.
What they selling ?   Kebabs

Marcon

fitzykev said:

I just spoke to an old friend and they where telling me they took a job with good intentions. But the boss keeps handing them 300 per week. They had worked another job before this but the business closed. While at that job everything was paid. They are also on universal credit and send there little girl to day care. When the wages stopped coming in as nothing was declared they obviously worried because they are claiming for day care for daughter but because wages are not showing it looks like they are at home so should not be claiming child care. My friend wants to force her bosses hand to do the correct thing for her and pay her tax and national insurance. How can she do this without spooking her boss and loosing her job? She has told me she is her bosses top seller so I'm sure boss won't want to loose her.

I think I probably know the answer, but...does she have any paperwork relating to the basis on which. her services are being utilised? Could her boss actually be working on the basis she is self employed? 

fitzykev

No her boss has said a few times she is paying her tax and insurance but no wage slip. We do know she declared one months wages once but that was only because she got spooked and declared something. But since then no wage slip and 300 in the hand. Unless she is now paying her tax and national insurance but because not paying into account is just handing her 300 in notes to save hassleof coins. It's all a bit strange. 

Penguin_

fitzykev said:

No her boss has said a few times she is paying her tax and insurance but no wage slip. We do know she declared one months wages once but that was only because she got spooked and declared something. But since then no wage slip and 300 in the hand. Unless she is now paying her tax and national insurance but because not paying into account is just handing her 300 in notes to save hassleof coins. It's all a bit strange. 

Have her register for a personal tax account on the government gateway website, that will show earnings that are (or aren't) being reported by her employer.

fitzykev

Okay and will hmrc pick up on anything going on from this? She would rather force her bosses hand and get everything paid up to date if anything funny is going on. can I do that also just to see my contributions? I am not self employed 

Penguin_

Well her online account will show what earnings are being reported. 

Yes, yours would show what earnings your employer is sending to HMRC.