is the public allowed to provide private parking firms with vehicle reg and time etc? 31 January at 5:11PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking 30 replies 962 views

pop23

our rural train station only has two dozen parking spaces so people park on the adjoining roads. all public highways. there are no cameras or council parking restrictions only laminated signs stuck to existing highways and council sign posts warning of parking fines. these are from ‘District Enforcement’. 

a local resident put a a4 photocopy of a hand written note on our windscreen saying car details have been past on to enforcement company etc. 

Can this be enforced?  based on member of public’s iphone picture of a car and a hand written note? I know which house the local busy body lives in a curtain twitcher extraordinaire. 

for all they know I could have broken-down or been visiting a neighbour. 

Umkomaas

Private parking firms will try anything to access money, including the wheeze known as 'self ticketing' where a local busybody can upload photos to their website. They are required to be authorised by the PPC and given a modicum of training (probably a self-learning website link). 

Whether your man/woman is a self ticketer, or just someone poking their nose in with empty threats, time will tell. If they are working for the PPC, you'll get a letter in the post at anytime up to 2 months from the date of the interference by whoever it was. 

pop23

we’ve had the letter from ‘District enforcement’. So they must be a self-ticketer? does that make it legit?

I was planning to ask for evidence of my parking gathered by a member of their staff. assume that’s not a valid approach? I could ask to see the busy-body’s PPC authorisation details? 

Coupon-mad

Not 'legit' but not yet a banned practice.  It is being banned under the new statutory Code but that's not come in yet.

You certainly DO NOT say "my parking"!

If you don't know why not to say or imply who parked, please read NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST.

unforeseen

If the roads are public highway under the control of the council then I doubt a ppc has any legitimate right to issue an invoice

KeithP

Where exactly did this alleged parking event take place?
Please give the exact name of the road.

pop23

Honeybourne worcestershire

fisherjim

If you look at item 22/110 on the Parish Council Minutes dated 13/12/2022 this is still an unadopted road, there have been many problems since the estate was built due to an access dispute with the TOC over their ownership of the land on the turn in to the estate.

But to sum up this reply from the minutes in essence IMHO indicates that the management company has appointed the PPC due to continued complaints from residents over parking issues.

A number of users and residents have written to PC regarding
the parking penalties signs. Clerk has emailed response to users
and residents to inform them that this is an unadopted road.

https://honeybourne-pc.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Binder-1-HPC-Draft-Minutes-13th-December-2023-2.pdf

https://www.eveshamjournal.co.uk/news/14147903.commuters-cars-are-causing-chaos-at-cramped-railway-station-at-honeybourne/

However the signage is as usual totally inadequate by the looks of it:

Half_way

Is this the place?

 https://www.google.com/maps/@52.1001847,-1.8324778,3a,15y,245.81h,86.7t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sH4m3ru1fQIkf2rnMzpp6hQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!9m2!1b1!2i40

Sign appears to state private road - is it?

patient_dream

This is one of those odd ball situations which already seems to be flawed.

Are you certain that the road is a public highway ?
The sign says it is PRIVATE PROPERTY

The sign clearly says that £100 is due from the driver
What does the letter say and who are they demanding payment from , the driver or registered keeper ?

No doubt a self ticketer who also sticks warnings to lamp posts and fails to understand data protection laws

What do the council say about a private company operating on a public road ?

fisherjim

patient_dream said:

This is one of those odd ball situations which already seems to be flawed.

Are you certain that the road is a public highway ?
The sign says it is PRIVATE PROPERTY

The sign clearly says that £100 is due from the driver
What does the letter say and who are they demanding payment from , the driver or registered keeper ?

No doubt a self ticketer who also sticks warnings to lamp posts and fails to understand data protection laws

What do the council say about a private company operating on a public road ?

It is a private road P_D