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Is this a HMO?

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flyer
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I have a 4 bed house and I rent rooms to the LA under a contract and they, in turn, use them for unaccompanied asylum-seeking children. I do not rent directly to them and my income comes directly from the LA. Is this a HMO?
Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.
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  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    Hi
    Have you asked the LA?
    A bit odd children being allwed to live alone in a property.
    Thanks
  • flyer
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    I haven't spoken to the LA as they are a nightmare to deal with!
    Although they are called children, they are aged between 16 and 21
    Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.
  • hazyjo
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    4 separate occupants? Unrelated? Sounds like an HMO if so, but hopefully someone can confirm. Also confused how children are living independently.
    2023 wins: *must start comping again!*
  • theartfullodger
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    It is a HMO - if landlord is private rather than local authority.

    Who is named as landlord on agreements with occupants please??

    It may or may not need a license.
  • flyer
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    theartfullodger said:
    It is a HMO - if landlord is private rather than local authority.

    Who is named as landlord on agreements with occupants please??

    It may or may not need a license.
    As I said, I have no contractual arrangement with the individual children, only a contract with the LA
    Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.
  • flyer
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    The wording on Gov website is
    A house in multiple occupation (HMO) is a property rented out by at least 3 people who are not from 1 ‘household’ 

    But the point I'm making is I don't rent out to 3 people. I rent to the LA.
    Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.
  • flyer
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    hazyjo said:
    4 separate occupants? Unrelated? Sounds like an HMO if so, but hopefully someone can confirm. Also confused how children are living independently.
    They're 16 to 21 and we support them.
    Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.
  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    Ok - look up the HMO spec for your LA it will clear tell you what is and whats not - were we live its more than 2 unrealted people
    Thanks
  • diystarter7
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    flyer said:
    I haven't spoken to the LA as they are a nightmare to deal with!
    Although they are called children, they are aged between 16 and 21
    Who looks after them? You get paid for rent or is it more than that?
    What made you ask the question at this point?
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 14,599 Forumite
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    Be aware (quite possible LA doesn't understand..) that tenancies for "minors" (those under 18..) are tricky legally... see, from th experts...

    https://england.shelter.org.uk/professional_resources/legal/housing_options/young_people_and_care_leavers_housing_rights/tenancies_for_children_and_young_people
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