County Court claim form UK parking control

Grizebeck

Galloglass said:

thus the verbal agreement of the restsurant staff 

It would be helpful to get the restaurant to confirm this would have been their policy at the time - if true

as I was driving this time Stevenage leisure car park back in 2017!

So nearly timed out and you're going to provide the details to them so they can progress it. Remember, they have to prove the case and all they have is some pics. 

Would suggest in this case, less is better.

Often the case i find. Less is often more !

Debunked

Galloglass said:

thus the verbal agreement of the restsurant staff 

It would be helpful to get the restaurant to confirm this would have been their policy at the time - if true

as I was driving this time Stevenage leisure car park back in 2017!

So nearly timed out and you're going to provide the details to them so they can progress it. Remember, they have to prove the case and all they have is some pics. 

Would suggest in this case, less is better.

So by this @Galloglass are you saying I should change my defence to a registered keeper one? Not admit I was driving. Fine was 09/2017.
They have started court process so is 6 year time frame irrelevant now? 

Coupon-mad

No. You can't change your defence to a keeper defence as you know you were driving.  Yes the time frame is irrelevant.

Galloglass

After nearly 6 years can you or the other side state anything with certainty? All they have is pics and possibly a copy of a landowner agreement which may or may not give them permission. It may or may not detail rules that you may or may not have broken. 

You are stating, with certainty, that you were driving, and that you parked outside of a bay. From the signs shown in this 2014 thread for the same site, you've just handed them a win by confirming all they need (If those were the signs there at the time)

So try to be less accommodating to the other side with your defence. And if you were going to use the Disabled bays, are you able to prove there was a valid BB in use at the time.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=90246

Fruitcake

Galloglass said:

So try to be less accommodating to the other side with your defence. And if you were going to use the Disabled bays, are you able to prove there was a valid BB in use at the time.

... or that an occupant of the car had a disability and had protected characteristics requiring service providers (landowner and PPC) to make reasonable adjustments in accordance with the Equality Act 2010, since the BB scheme does not apply on private land but the EA 2010 does.

Galloglass

... or that an occupant of the car had a disability and had protected characteristics requiring service providers (landowner and PPC) to make reasonable adjustments in accordance with the Equality Act 2010, since the BB scheme does not apply on private land but the EA 2010 does.

The site had made provision though alleged full at the time. In order to argue the EA side, there needs to be a stronger argument such as proof of a disability that caused the driver to park the other spaces. 

There are hard and soft facts - and wishful thinking. Does the OP have any evidence of the condition of the passengers to support their statement. Judges will look at facts with supporting evidence - which the OP should know by now as Mr L has been to court already. 

Debunked

The late relative had a disabled badge, we didn't have that on display that day unfortunately. So I will need to provide proof/details to the judge of their disability. 
Thanks 

Galloglass

The late relative had a disabled badge, we didn't have that on display that day unfortunately. So I will need to provide proof/details to the judge of their disability. 

Always have at the back of your mind that you are asking a judge to make a decision on the points being made. There are points where both parties agree (or have admitted). Then there are the points in dispute which a judge will rule on. Within those points are those with evidence and those without (so credibility comes into play)

The less he has to rule on, the better.

Coupon-mad

Coupon-mad said:

Obviously only remove the phrase I quoted. 

You need to state that the passenger has since died but were disabled due to chronic xxxxxx and xxxxxxxx (medical conditions) thus the verbal agreement of the restsurant staff to park there was express permission and a 'reasonable adjustment' under the Equality Act 2010. 

I stand by what I said above.

This is what to add to the defence and I already advised to remove the phrase about parking across two bays. I quoted the EXACT AND ONLY words to remove from your draft.

This is fairly simple to defend and should be done as admitted driver.

The OP does recall the facts with certainty so advising them to muddy the waters and faff about with a keeper defence is wrong advice:

 I was driving this time Stevenage leisure car park back in 2017!
I parked across 2 bays, but had an elderly lady with me, and we were going to the restaurant. All disabled bays were taken up. So I parked there as half of the bay was taken up with the bins from the restaurant. Had our meal then left unaware that car had been photographed, received pcn blah blah.
My main point is I parked across 2 bays to get as close to the restaurant as possible as there were no other spaces available.

Galloglass

Can't see where the OP had "verbal agreement".