Premier Park Ltd advice


I've tried my best to read over the original sticky to see if my case could fit and follow those guidelines and felt they didn't so I'm posting here to gain advice on the best course of action for my situation.
The first time I found out about these two penalties was on the 29th December 2022 when I received a letter from Debt Recovery Plus, which I then proceeded to contact them regarding it (yes I've read other posts stating ignore them) luckily I did not accept liability and did not pay them anything. For context the reason for my only finding out about them was due to serving in the RAF and that as i had still been in training I didn't have a fixed residence at a base so I kept everything registered to my parents address where I reside till till I got given a permanent base.
So these parking tickets were obtained on the 28th September and the 29th of October at Pure Gym Gravesend. Pure Gym offers free parking at the St George's Centre, Gravesend for 2 hours but of course I went over that allotted time by 31 minutes on one occasion and 54 on the other.
As you can see by the dates a considerable amount of time has past which is why I presume they have resorted to DRP to try and retrieve the money which i know to ignore.
I have had no other correspondence other than what i have stated above.
Is it best for me to start by emailing Premier parking using the appeal statement provided in the sticky to start?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I have a very high possibility of being deployed any point and having them file a CCJ that I could potential miss is something that is a worrying factor.
Thank you in advance
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The NEWBIES fits your case perfectly. Your situation is nothing new.
They are not penalties.
Ignore DRP. They are powerless and an do nothing.
What happened when the keeper complained to the gym manager/CEO and your MP? That is always Plan A and it is never too late to do so.
Never, ever 'phone a PPC or any of their agents.
It is too late to appeal, although you could try to do so by post stating that the keeper was deployed on active service with the military therefore the NTKs were not properly served at the time. It will do no good other than it is something you could show a judge to explain why you did not respond at the time.
If you do appeal, use the template in blue text from the NEWBIES and send it first class from a Post Office counter, obtaining the all important free proof of posting.
Other than that there is nothing you can do other then ensure your parents contact you asap if a letter of claim or court claim arrives at the address the DVLA have on file.
I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks1 -
I did contact st George's centre and spoke to him in person regarding it and said he would be happy to help if it was 15 to 20 minutes over but it wasn't unfortunately.
I shall go through attempting to appeal via there email address and state those circumstances as well.
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If you appeal via email, take a screen grab and send it to yourself as well. Check to see if the NTK is or isn't PoFA compliant. If it isn't, make sure you do not identify the driver. In other words, don't say what you said in your opening post.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks1
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But it is too late to appeal so you'll end up ignoring them anyway.
However, you do then live with the danger of missing a court claim (for 6 years), so someone at the family home MUST open your post quicker and get images of each letter to you faster, in case it is a LBC or court claim at any point. Those are not to be ignored.
Don't let anyone at the house panic and pay due to the 'scary threatograms' they will be opening.
It's a scam. No-one pays.
But these cases CAN go to court (and can of course, be successfully defended). No CCJ is risked as long as they don't move house without telling the parking firm a new address for you, and as long as no-one ignores a court claim.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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If you want to know perhaps why you received no initial paperwork, check (don't guess) what address is showing on your V5C (logbook), because that's the address the DVLA would have given to the parking firm. Once they have that, that's what they will use. They do not get updates from the DVLA if an address is subsequently changed, neither are they able to make a further application to the DVLA for the current address for the same parking charge.You need to keep the PPC up to date with any address change, where you can be certain you can receive any future correspondence, to avoid a court claim being served on a redundant address, with you being the victim of a claim for which you have no detail and with a subsequent CCJ and a great mess to sort out to avoid it hitting your credit rating and potentially 6 years of real financial pain.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
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Thank for all your replies and they’ve been amazing and as mentioned above I used the template in the sticky along with the NTK no being served on the bases of out of area and they finally gave me a reply to this.
Re: Parking Charge Notices ……
Whilst we note your comments, unfortunately, we cannot be held liable for a delay in you receiving the letters due to being away from the address registered with the DVLA.
- PCN ….. was issued because the vehicle parked within the St George’s Shopping Centre, Gravesend car park on 24th September 2022 for a period of 2 hours and 31 minutes with only a payment for 2 hours purchased.
The Notice to Keeper was issued to the address held by the DVLA on 29th September 2022 and a First Reminder was issued 28th October 2022.
- PCN ….. was issued because the vehicle parked within the St George’s Shopping Centre, Gravesend car park on 22nd October 2022 for a period of 2 hours and 59 minutes with only a payment for 2 hours purchased.
The Notice to Keeper was issued to the address held by the DVLA on 28th October 2022 and a First Reminder was issued 28th November 2022.
It would appear that you believe we are obligated under the General Data Protection Regulations (GDPR) to supply you with information that is not deemed to be personal data.
It may be worthwhile reading the following link from the Information Commissioners Office (ICO) which gives a clear definition of Personal Data:
(A link the posted)
Therefore, we must advise, the additional information you have requested does not fall under your rights with regard to Article 15 of GDPR and therefore we will not be providing this to you.
Please be advised that we are no longer able to deal with your cases at this late stage as they are now being dealt with by our Collection Agency. Their details are as follows;
Debt Recovery Plus Ltd.
P.O. Box 219
Manchester
M34 0DG
This means they have passed it onto debt recovery plus and I presume are unwilling to communicate further.
I personally am debating writing to them offering a good will gesture of £60 per ticket so that it is dealt with of course stating that I was not the driver or do you think by following the process on your sticky and just waiting for CCJ
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You aren't waiting for a CCJ.
A court claim is not a CCJ!
Don't offer money.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Yeah, that’s the one…. Ok so hopefully still winnable at the court stage and follow the process.1
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Gk1234 said:Yeah, that’s the one…. Ok so hopefully still winnable at the court stage and follow the process.And we sincerely hope that you are au fait with the need to respond to the final Government Public Consultation?
We all need to ram the nail in the coffin of the false £70 'DRA fee' add-on, that actually funds the court claim and toxic CCJ culture, as well as the DRA and roboclaim 'legals' gaslighting of people.
This is your only chance to change the law.
Please come back here when it opens, and you can make sure you don't miss the Public Consultation.
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