Shared Heating supply in a flat - HAVE HAD NO HELP with capping prices or financial

Spoonie_Turtle

I'm confused by your spreadsheet.  This bill for your heating and hot water.  How have you worked out the shower cost from your combined heating and total hot water (surely you use it for more than a shower) cost?

samantha08

pochase said:

How long are the showers you take to be £4.45?

Even for an electric shower it would need to be more than an hour.

A 12KW electric shower that is used for 10 minutes works out to 2KWh, that is 2x34p or 68p.

My point exactly! Shower is always less than 10 mins. I miss typed also should read £4.24. I divide total cost by number of showers in billing period, which includes standing charge. Also I have pointed out that meter is clicking up daily , whether I have a shower or not. 

Even without the standing charge it’s still £3.24. 

samantha08

Spoonie_Turtle said:

I'm confused by your spreadsheet.  This bill for your heating and hot water.  How have you worked out the shower cost from your combined heating and total hot water (surely you use it for more than a shower) cost?

All the radiators have been turned off. There is effectively no heating in the flat. I only use hot water for showers. Wash up in cold water! Or use dishwasher. 

Spoonie_Turtle

samantha08 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

I'm confused by your spreadsheet.  This bill for your heating and hot water.  How have you worked out the shower cost from your combined heating and total hot water (surely you use it for more than a shower) cost?

All the radiators have been turned off. There is effectively no heating in the flat. I only use hot water for showers. Wash up in cold water! Or use dishwasher. 

Oh of course, it was for June to October, that makes sense, sorry.  Definitely sounds like something weird is going on then.

ariarnia

having to pay if testing the meter shows no fault is standard. its not something thats just your flat. 

but theres probably some checks you can do yourself to work out if its worth the 'risk' (to be confident its broken rather than there being something on in the background that youve not thought of and how badly/how much it might cost you to not get it tested) 

if you'd like to do that then if you let us know i'm sure some of the clever people that know more about how meters work can help. 

Gerry1

The Heat Network scheme isn't doing you many favours.

Domestic gas would be about 10.3p/kWh at present on a capped tariff, so you're paying over three times as much (although without having the capital and maintenance costs of your own boiler).  You might as well be all-electric !

Presumably there are 48 flats and you share the heating costs pro-rata?

Are you sure that turning off the radiators really does stop all the heating?  If they're TRVs or similar you may find that they will call for some heat if it gets chilly in the evenings or overnight, a precaution against frost protection.  It may be possible that you can turn everything off if there's the equivalent of a stopcock.  There may always be some heat supplied on the basis that if many or all the flats happened to be unoccupied for more than a few days then pipes could burst if there a Beast from the East.

Similarly, are you obliged to use the system, can you opt out?  Of  course, that may not be possible because you could get the equivalent of a 'run on a bank', the cost per flat would rise as more people exited so there would be a vicious circle.

k_man

samantha08 said:

pochase said:

How long are the showers you take to be £4.45?

Even for an electric shower it would need to be more than an hour.

A 12KW electric shower that is used for 10 minutes works out to 2KWh, that is 2x34p or 68p.

My point exactly! Shower is always less than 10 mins. I miss typed also should read £4.24. I divide total cost by number of showers in billing period, which includes standing charge. Also I have pointed out that meter is clicking up daily , whether I have a shower or not. 

Even without the standing charge it’s still £3.24. 

While something does seem off in general, as usage/costs seems high, is your calculation of cost per shower based in 1 shower every 3 days?

If this should be a daily shower, and is actually 15 minutes not 10, or is very high flow rate of hot water (e.g. waterfall type shower), then the costs seem more typical for electrically heated water.

Also, is there any other use of hot water, e.g washing hands, or hot feed into washing machine/dishwasher (albeit the latter two are uncommon in recent times).

macman

At 34p per kWh, and assuming a 10kW shower full on, a 10 minute shower would cost you about 56p. No idea how you are getting £4.24?