Ofgem incompetence?

MattMattMattUK

molerat said:

So the logical reason is because it has always been that way ?

The logical reason is regional pricing reflects regional cost, this reduces cross subsidy and reflects the cost of both the network provision and the prices the suppliers have to pay from the generators combined with transmission costs. The choice for national pricing vs regional pricing is not a logical vs illogical choice, both are entirely logical choices, they are just different choices. A choice is not illogical just because you do not agree with it.

molerat

There is no morally justifiable reason for differing energy prices.  The majority of sectors do not charge differing prices according to location, if they do the customer goes elsewhere, even many of courier companies have now seen the light.  With energy you are a captive of your location.

ariarnia

molerat said:

There is no morally justifiable reason for differing energy prices.  The majority of sectors do not charge differing prices according to location, if they do the customer goes elsewhere, even many of courier companies have now seen the light.  With energy you are a captive of your location.

i could just as easily say theres no morally justifiable reason why someone living there best life in the middle of the country side should have the cost of there electric supply OR there parcel delivery subsidised by someone living in a cheap inner city flat. thats the thing with morality and justification. its worth about as much in a sentence as 'i dont think' 

Mstty

Wow this derailed quickly once more. Back to the Christmas pudding 

MattMattMattUK

molerat said:

There is no morally justifiable reason for differing energy prices.

So you are now switching from logic to morality? There is a perfectly justifiable moral reason, it reflects the real world costs.

molerat said:

The majority of sectors do not charge differing prices according to location, 

Water, petrol and diesel, LPG and fuel oil, supermarkets, council tax, catering, I am sure there are many others.

molerat said:

if they do the customer goes elsewhere, 

Sometimes, not always, it depends if the costs are competitive for the region.

molerat said:

even many of courier companies have now seen the light.

Nearly all courier companies charge extra for "Highland and islands" which usually starts about 25 miles north of Glasgow and Edinburgh, the same as they do for Northern Ireland, the Isle of Wight, Channel Islands and some other locations. 

molerat said:

With energy you are a captive of your location.

And? Why should the cost of supplying the location not be reflected in the price charged?

Again, just because you disagree with something does not make it illogical, or as you now claim immoral. 

MattMattMattUK

Mstty said:

Wow this derailed quickly once more. Back to the Christmas pudding 

I have already eaten too much Christmas pudding and cheese, though mostly cheese!

Mstty

MattMattMattUK said:

Mstty said:

Wow this derailed quickly once more. Back to the Christmas pudding 

I have already eaten too much Christmas pudding and cheese, though mostly cheese!

Ditto on the cheese

Eldi_Dos

Too much of that can give you indigestion which is not good for clear thinking.

ariarnia

i'm a little worried i think we might be down tot he last box of mince pies. need at least one each for new year. 

Qyburn

MattMattMattUK said:

molerat said:
if they do the customer goes elsewhere, 

Sometimes, not always, it depends if the costs are competitive for the region.

molerat said:

even many of courier companies have now seen the light.

Nearly all courier companies charge extra for "Highland and islands" which usually starts about 25 miles north of Glasgow and Edinburgh, the same as they do for Northern Ireland, the Isle of Wight, Channel Islands and some other locations. 

By no means most, but a few do. And the result is the customer goes elsewhere as you say. I never buy from a company that charges extra for delivery to our address, because I have always found one that does not.