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CCJ help

I was issued a CCJ just over 6 years ago that has just dropped off my credit file and I need to find the case number. The reason is because I was also issued another 2 CCJ’S (one in 2018 and the other in 2020). They are both from the original debt (the debt was purchased by Azzuro associates who then sold it to Moorcroft). 
Both companies got solicitor’s involved that subsequently led to the other 2 CCJ’S.
I have the case numbers for the 2018 and 2020 CCJ’S but not for the 2016 CCJ.
Can anybody please give me advice on how I can find out the original CCJ case number as I am trying to get the CCJ’S removed from my credit file.
Many thanks.

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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 30,408 Ambassador
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    edited 11 December 2022 at 3:55PM
    Not sure I understand your problem.

    Your post is a little confusing, as you can only have one county court judgement on any particular debt, one CCJ has nothing whatsoever to do with any other CCJ, one debt equals one judgement.

    Are you saying that judgement was granted on the same debt, on three (3) separate occasions ?

    The minimum period for retention of public information is 6 years in the UK.
    Some companies may hold internal records for longer, but usually it`s 6 years, so after that time has elapsed, you are unlikely to get what you want.

    And on what basis are you trying to set them aside anyway?
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  • Not sure I understand your problem.

    Your post is a little confusing, as you can only have one county court judgement on any particular debt, one CCJ has nothing whatsoever to do with any other CCJ, one debt equals one judgement.

    Are you saying that judgement was granted on the same debt, on three (3) separate occasions ?

    The minimum period for retention of public information is 6 years in the UK.
    Some companies may hold internal records for longer, but usually it`s 6 years, so after that time has elapsed, you are unlikely to get what you want.

    And on what basis are you trying to set them aside anyway?
    Hi and thanks for your reply.
     I had a CCJ issued by 118 118 money in 2016 for an unpaid loan that I took out for my ex wife. They sold the debt to Azzuro associates after the CCJ was issued. Azzuro used Restons solicitors to apply for a CCJ which was issued in 2018. Azzuro then sold the debt to Moorcroft who in turn used Overdale solicitors to apply for a CCJ which was issued in 2020.
    So to clarify the original 118 118 debt has 3 CCJ’S issued against me and I need the first CCJ reference number to prove that the 3 CCJ’S are linked and shouldn’t be on my credit file as the first one issued in 2016 was 6 years ago.
    I also believe that only 1 CCJ can be issued for a debt.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 30,408 Ambassador
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    What a completely bizarre set of circumstances.

    Only one judgement can ever be recorded, for any particular debt, yes.

    Can I ask why the second/third claims were not defended on the basis that judgement had already been granted?

    As I said above, it may be difficult to get the court reference number of CCJ 1 now.
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  • cymruchris
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    If the CCJ first issued to you in relation to the debt was given by 118, can you approach them for details? I would imagine they'd have records. Did you make any payments towards the original debt once the CCJ was issued?
  • What a completely bizarre set of circumstances.

    Only one judgement can ever be recorded, for any particular debt, yes.

    Can I ask why the second/third claims were not defended on the basis that judgement had already been granted?

    As I said above, it may be difficult to get the court reference number of CCJ 1 now.
    Hi, the reason that I didn’t defend the other 2 CCJ’S was because I only realised they were connected after my divorce and they were just put away in a drawer. (My mistake entirely).
    That is why I am trying to sort it all now so I can rebuild my credit and live a better life.
  • If the CCJ first issued to you in relation to the debt was given by 118, can you approach them for details? I would imagine they'd have records. Did you make any payments towards the original debt once the CCJ was issued?
    Many thanks for your advice. I never even thought about contacting 118 but I will definitely do that.

  • penners324
    penners324 Posts: 3,297 Forumite
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    Or contact Northampton County Court?
  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 21,945 Forumite
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    edited 13 December 2022 at 3:36PM
    118 118 Money is the trading name of Madison CF UK Limited. You are fortunate that they still exist.

    You can contact them via email at 

    customerservices@118118money.com


    You can do a Subject Access Request to see what they hold on you


    https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/your-right-to-get-copies-of-your-data/


    No point contacting NCC unless you have the court reference


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