Redundant Cooker cable in wall.

macman

Since you intend to replace the CCU in another part of the kitchen, can you not trace the cable back and then reroute it to the new location? Do this as one operation now rather than when you come to replace the hob.

Ectophile

macman said:

Since you intend to replace the CCU in another part of the kitchen, can you not trace the cable back and then reroute it to the new location? Do this as one operation now rather than when you come to replace the hob.

Because something is currently there and the cable can't be re-routed until the thing that's there has been removed?

gutovicky

Thank you all, for the thoughts and comments..

No, rest assured, I would NEVER do any work at the Consumer Unit itself.....

Anyhow, I have some disclosure to make...  something I didn't mention in my initial question...
I actually have cut the cooker cable in the wall, by accident! 
So this cable is presently live & redundant in the wall.

I have been dismantling part of an internal wall (non-loadbearing) to knock my kitchen & dining room together.
Most of the wall in which the cable is buried is wall I wish to REMOVE. 

So, now I've come across the cable [& managed to damage it], I really need to neutralise it before I carry on.
That's why I was hoping I could cut it off & make safe in the loft....     for the time being, not as a permanent fix. 

I know it's not a good situation..   What would you do?
Or have I dug myself into such a hole that only a qualified electrician can pull me out?

Cheers, Vicky
 

FreeBear

Turn the power off via the big red switch in the consumer unit. Cut the cooker cable up in the loft and shove the bare ends of the cable in to a suitably sized terminal block. Place the terminal block inside a small plastic box. Or use one of these - https://www.screwfix.com/p/30a-3-terminal-heavy-duty-junction-box-black/7552d - Oh, and flick the cooker circuit breaker to the OFF position.

When the electrician turns up to do the wiring for the kitchen, get him/her to disconnect the cooker cable completely and then you can pull the remains out of the wall & loft.

chris_n

Did it trip the MCB or RCD if present when you cut the cable? How are you going to ensure the cable is dead before you cut it in the loft?

grumbler

chris_n said:

How are you going to ensure the cable is dead before you cut it in the loft?

FreeBear said:

Turn the power off via the big red switch in the consumer unit.

- I have nothing to add...

Section62

grumbler said:

chris_n said:

How are you going to ensure the cable is dead before you cut it in the loft?

FreeBear said:

Turn the power off via the big red switch in the consumer unit.

- I have nothing to add...

I think the point might be that how do you know the big fat cable you've located in the loft is actually isolated by the big red switch in the consumer unit?

Do you know it is safe to cut, or is it just a case of guessing?

chris_n

Section62 said:

grumbler said:

chris_n said:

How are you going to ensure the cable is dead before you cut it in the loft?

FreeBear said:

Turn the power off via the big red switch in the consumer unit.

- I have nothing to add...

I think the point might be that how do you know the big fat cable you've located in the loft is actually isolated by the big red switch in the consumer unit?

Do you know it is safe to cut, or is it just a case of guessing?

Got it in one, I know people who have been very badly injured through not dead testing.

Apodemus

Section62 said:

grumbler said:

chris_n said:

How are you going to ensure the cable is dead before you cut it in the loft?

FreeBear said:

Turn the power off via the big red switch in the consumer unit.

- I have nothing to add...

I think the point might be that how do you know the big fat cable you've located in the loft is actually isolated by the big red switch in the consumer unit?

Do you know it is safe to cut, or is it just a case of guessing?

Quite so!  My cooker circuit is not isolated by the "big red switch" on the consumer unit.

grumbler

Section62 said:

grumbler said:

chris_n said:

How are you going to ensure the cable is dead before you cut it in the loft?

FreeBear said:

Turn the power off via the big red switch in the consumer unit.

- I have nothing to add...

I think the point might be that how do you know the big fat cable you've located in the loft is actually isolated by the big red switch in the consumer unit?

Do you know it is safe to cut, or is it just a case of guessing?

Do you mean that it can come from neighbours' house?

Normally there is one big switch in the CU that switches off all electricity in the house (not sure about solar panels and batteries). And how can you make sure if not by removing the cover from CU and testing the cable there? Again, how can you be sure that it's the same cable?