Wedding dress cancellation rights

Manxman_in_exile

powerful_Rogue said:

km1500 said:

"...even if entirely verbal"

or indeed even if entirely oral 🙂

Verbal was the correct terminology.

Was it?  I was always taught that almost all contracts were verbal - ie to do with words*.  But some are in writing, and others can be said to be spoken or vocal.  (In fact I was always taught that non-written contracts were "oral", but people don't seem to like that term any more... )

I think the point that @Undervalued was trying to make would be meaningless if "verbal" only applied to oral contracts and not to written ones...


* There is no point in extending the meaning of "verbal" beyond that of relating to words as it leads to confusion.  More appropriate alternatives already exist.

powerful_Rogue

Manxman_in_exile said:

powerful_Rogue said:

km1500 said:

"...even if entirely verbal"

or indeed even if entirely oral 🙂

Verbal was the correct terminology.

Was it?  I was always taught that almost all contracts were verbal - ie to do with words*.  But some are in writing, and others can be said to be spoken or vocal.  (In fact I was always taught that non-written contracts were "oral", but people don't seem to like that term any more... )

I think the point that @Undervalued was trying to make would be meaningless if "verbal" only applied to oral contracts and not to written ones...


* There is no point in extending the meaning of "verbal" beyond that of relating to words as it leads to confusion.  More appropriate alternatives already exist.

What is the difference between verbal and oral? Typically, verbal refers to spoken communication, while oral refers to things having to do with the mouth. Because spoken words come from the mouth, oral can also be used to refer to spoken communication, so in this way the two words can have interchangeable usages.

https://becomeawritertoday.com/oral-vs-verbal/

That's why we have an Oral examination when we go to the dentist, rather then a verbal one. Also verbal sex vs oral sex are two totally different things.

Manxman_in_exile

All contracts whose terms are defined by the meaning of words - whether written or spoken - are "verbal" contracts.  "Verbal" should not additionally be used only to describe oral contracts that are not recorded in writing.  There are already more appropriate adjectives to describe them.

The needless extension of the meaning of "verbal" to include "oral" (or spoken or vocal) simply leads to confusion where none existed before, and a loss of precision in the language.

This site, for example, gives a definition of an "oral contract" ( ORAL CONTRACT | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary) but if you search for "verbal contract" it doesn't even recognise the term ( verbal contract - Did you spell it correctly. Alternative spellings in the British English Dictionary - Cambridge Dictionary)

I'm not persuaded to change my mind by a US website giving advice to aspiring writers...

elsien

Aside from the legalities as already explained, you haven’t actually said why you wanted to cancel the dress? 

Not that  it makes much difference if you don’t have cancellation rights anyway but it does read as if the only reason you want to cancel is the payment terms so I suppose I’m querying why those terms are an issue for you given that you’ve got to pay for the dress at some point before your wedding anyway?

km1500

verbal means words - pretty much all contracts are words - an exception might mean a cave painting contract where it will be pictorial rather than verbal

oral means spoken as opposed to written down.

you can have an oral contract where two.people agree on something by speaking with nothing written down. Or a written contract. Both would be verbal.

Ath_Wat

elsien said:

Aside from the legalities as already explained, you haven’t actually said why you wanted to cancel the dress? 

Not that  it makes much difference if you don’t have cancellation rights anyway but it does read as if the only reason you want to cancel is the payment terms so I suppose I’m querying why those terms are an issue for you given that you’ve got to pay for the dress at some point before your wedding anyway?

I imagine the reason they want to cancel the dress is actually because they can't cancel the dress.  That is, they thought when they paid they were not committing to anything and could get their money back later, and hadn't actually decided yet that they want it.

sheramber

I also read it as the OP wants to cancel because she read that she to pay the full price,even if she cancels. 

She will probably find all shops selling fitted wedding dresses operate the same way.
The shop  has to order in a dress and it is then fitted to the customer’s measurements at a later date. This allows for any changes before the big day. How many brides to be go on a diet for the big day?

We seem  to live in a cancel these days.