Incredible disappearing penalty notice!

nosuperwoman

Hi all,
I bought a 3 hour ticket by mistake and  overstayed by an hour . I came back to find a penalty notice on the car and realised what had happened. I then popped into the public loo there, leaving the notice on the windshield. When I got back to the car it had gone! No idea what happened, someone's idea of a joke maybe?

I think I am unusual here in that I fully intend to pay it but without the actual notice I can't. I checked with the council by email and they don't have my reg, the parking stub says LPS so I guess it's them but their system is automated and I can't do anything without the reference number.

Had this happened to anyone else?
Having read some of the threads on here maybe I should wait to get a communication from them and appeal anyway!

Umkomaas

Someone's pulled it off the car. If the parking firm are to chase you as the registered keeper, you should get a letter between day 28 and day 56 if they wish to invoke keeper liability. Otherwise, if they only wish to chase the driver, they have 7 months after the parking event - 6 months to get the data from the DVLA, then a further 1 month to issue the Notice letter. 

Fruitcake

You may have been the victim of ghost ticketing where a PCN appears on the windscreen, is photographed by the parking person, then gets removed by a person or persons unknown.
Can you think of anyone who would benefit from removing said PCN?

Answers on a postcard please to Scam PPC inc.

nosuperwoman

Fruitcake said:

You may have been the victim of ghost ticketing where a PCN appears on the windscreen, is photographed by the parking person, then gets removed by a person or persons unknown.
Can you think of anyone who would benefit from removing said PCN?

Answers on a postcard please to Scam PPC inc.

That's what I was thinking, some sort of scam but who and why? I even looked in the nearby bin and on the floor in case a joker did it. 

Umkomaas

nosuperwoman said:

Fruitcake said:

You may have been the victim of ghost ticketing where a PCN appears on the windscreen, is photographed by the parking person, then gets removed by a person or persons unknown.
Can you think of anyone who would benefit from removing said PCN?

Answers on a postcard please to Scam PPC inc.

That's what I was thinking, some sort of scam but who and why? I even looked in the nearby bin and on the floor in case a joker did it. 

Usually the parking weasel. Means he won't face confrontation from the motorist, it could be up to two months before the motorist knows anything about it, by which time the -40% bribe, masquerading as a 'discount' is no longer available, weasel on a percentage of tickets paid earns more from £100 than they would do from £60. 

Not_A_Hope

If you didn’t actually look to check it was a real PCN it is possible it could have a joke as prank PCNs are available to buy even on Amazon. Whilst waiting to see if you get any letters you could pop back and see whose car park it is and get photos of all the signage which could be useful if you need to defend

Fruitcake

There is only one person or persons who stand to gain by carrying out such a jolly jape. 

It's impossible to prove without witnesses or photo'/video evidence, but ghost ticketing has been caught on camera once to my knowledge.

If the keeper does get a PCN through the post, Plan A is always a complaint to the landowner and the keeper's MP.

Come back to this thread if you do get a NTK, but do follow the excellent advice above and get photos of the site and signage before anything changes.

Coupon-mad

Yep, wait for the NTK.  Make sure your logbook has your up to date address on it!

nosuperwoman

Fruitcake said:

There is only one person or persons who stand to gain by carrying out such a jolly jape. 

It's impossible to prove without witnesses or photo'/video evidence, but ghost ticketing has been caught on camera once to my knowledge.

If the keeper does get a PCN through the post, Plan A is always a complaint to the landowner and the keeper's MP.

Come back to this thread if you do get a NTK, but do follow the excellent advice above and get photos of the site and signage before anything changes.

Will do. This has backfired if that is the case. I would have paid to get the bribe of £40 less but I am going to appeal if that's not available as I have nothing to lose.