LL refusing Gas Safe to test Boiler

Utterlyconfused81

Yeah that is pretty much our thinking.   

Utterlyconfused81

aoleks said:

regardless of paperwork, you are allowed to get a registered gas engineer in your home (yes, it is your home, even if you rent) and check for any fault, especially since this kind of issues can easily lead to death (this is no exaggeration at all).

type your postcode here and choose an engineer based on reviews online. phone up, get them to come to your place and check everything, landlord doesn't need to know.

they have the power to disconnect any appliance that is deemed dangerous until your fix them, but that's the landlord's responsibility.

Fortunately we know a local builder who we have asked to pass on the details of someone he would trust to do this. 

SusieT

When I had tenants I would have been horrified if a gas supply had been found in that condition and would have immediately ordered a new engineer to go and do a test. 
If your landlord is so unconcerned about the possibility of the gas supply being unsafe and not wanting you to have an independant person look at it, I would agree with the others that you should move as soon as you can get out of the contract to somewhere with a landlord who wants their property to be safe and in a decent condition. 

macman

Jumblebumble said:

macman said:

Utterlyconfused81 said:

theartfullodger said:

In your shoes with your concerns I'd simply get a gas safety certificate done, at your own expense, without asking permission from stupid landlord.  Then see what it says!

Artful  (landlord since 2000)

That's pretty much the stage we are getting to, however the LL's rep has stated, in more than one email, that we are not authorised under any circumstances to have anyone do any work at the property and that any ignoring of this instruction will also not see them liable for costs.

My concern is that if we do hire someone (we have a builder friend who will be able to recommend a reputable and qualified Engineer) and a fault is found, that the LL / Rep will then claim this is as a result of the person we hired and try and pass liability on to us.

This has already been the case with regards another issue at the property where the LL authorised and transferred my partner the money to pay for work to be done only to then claim that our contractor had made the problem worse, which was simply not the case.  Nor were they our contractor as far as we are concerned.  

Honestly, if I provided a full list of issues with this place along with how much we paid upfront and the difficulty we've had in getting anything done, you'd think I was making it up before realising it's so crazy it could only be true. 

It's not 'work', it's an inspection. You can commission any report you like without the LL's permission. The only 'work' involved is undoing a couple of screws to remove the fboiler ront cover. The LL's agent is clueless and simply repeating nonsense.

Hmm
What do you think happens next if the Gas Safe Engineer decides the system is dangerous and caps off the supply ?

Then they'd be doing both the OP and the LL a favour, by protecting both life and property.

Utterlyconfused81

Rather than creating a new thread, unless that would be better, just going to ask this here.

Does anyone know where we stand with passing on far higher than usual utilities costs, Gas and Electric?  This being due to having contractors in to undertake the repairs to the bathroom and re-fitting.

Thread relating to that issue https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79580993#Comment_79580993

Since moving in and this being the first property we have had a smart meter in, we have managed to average for both utilities to be approx. £2.50 to £3.00 a day. We generally only exceed this now and again on a Sunday if doing a Roast as it requires the oven to be on significantly longer.

Between the 4 days last week, and the 2 days so far this week, with the contractors in and heating having to be run more than it would due to front door being left wide open as they come and go, windows being open in the bathroom, lights on upstairs and the charging and use of tools / machinery, each of these days have exceeded £6.00 with yesterday actually passing £7.00.

I know this seems quite frugal but given they are being immensely difficult with us, I do not see why we should have to incur these costs when it is through no fault of ours. Had they taken on board my advice in July and investigated the source of the bathroom leak then this work would have been done in the height of summer and lights / heating etc. would not have been necessary. I may have even turned a blind eye to paying for powering tools / equipment.

As it stands, there is 1 more day to finish the bathroom, but after that is completed there is a long list of other issues they have been instructed to resolve and as such will be here many, many more days yet. Ultimately this will add up.

silvercar

Utterlyconfused81 said:

Rather than creating a new thread, unless that would be better, just going to ask this here.

Does anyone know where we stand with passing on far higher than usual utilities costs, Gas and Electric?  This being due to having contractors in to undertake the repairs to the bathroom and re-fitting.

Thread relating to that issue https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79580993#Comment_79580993

Since moving in and this being the first property we have had a smart meter in, we have managed to average for both utilities to be approx. £2.50 to £3.00 a day. We generally only exceed this now and again on a Sunday if doing a Roast as it requires the oven to be on significantly longer.

Between the 4 days last week, and the 2 days so far this week, with the contractors in and heating having to be run more than it would due to front door being left wide open as they come and go, windows being open in the bathroom, lights on upstairs and the charging and use of tools / machinery, each of these days have exceeded £6.00 with yesterday actually passing £7.00.

I know this seems quite frugal but given they are being immensely difficult with us, I do not see why we should have to incur these costs when it is through no fault of ours. Had they taken on board my advice in July and investigated the source of the bathroom leak then this work would have been done in the height of summer and lights / heating etc. would not have been necessary. I may have even turned a blind eye to paying for powering tools / equipment.

As it stands, there is 1 more day to finish the bathroom, but after that is completed there is a long list of other issues they have been instructed to resolve and as such will be here many, many more days yet. Ultimately this will add up.

I would think you won't get any help with this. Having contractors in and out is just the way it is if you want the repairs done. My general advice would be to try and heat yourselves and turn the heating off - not much point having the heating running if the doors and windows are wide open. Time to wrap up warm and have hot drinks.