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kroggy
kroggy Posts: 38 Forumite
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edited 14 November 2022 at 6:34PM in Energy
I have been comparing tariffs with friends and whilst there is a cap on the maximum £2500 amount, the way the tariffs are implemented seems to vary, some seem to charge a lower Standing Charge and higher energy rate or vice versa. It occurred to me that this community might wish to compare the rates in case they desire to change supplier based on their usage.

Please do not clutter this thread with chat and discussion, just the data, feel free to start your own thread to discuss. 

If you wish to participate please layout the data from your bill in the same way as below including the Tariff name and region.  I will then copy the data to a spreadsheet and make it available in this post./thread.


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Supplier: Shell Energy 
Tariff: Energy Price Guarantee Direct Debit (Single Rate)

Region: Eastern  

Tariff rates Prices inclusive of VAT

Elec Unit rate per kWh: 35.056p 
Gas Unit rate per kWh: 10.309p
Elec Standing charge: 38.93p per day 
Gas Standing charge: 28.48p per day

Tariff rates Prices exclusive  of VAT

Elec Unit rate per kWh: 0.33387 
Gas Unit rate per kWh: 0.09818
Elec Standing charge: 37.08p per day
Gas Standing charge: 27.12p per day
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Supplier: So Energy
Tariff: So Flex Direct Debit

Region: Northern

Tariff rates Prices inclusive of VAT

Elec Unit rate per kWh: 32.23p

Gas Unit rate per kWh: 10.19p

Elec Standing charge: 49.92p per day 

Gas Standing charge: 28.47p per day


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  • All of Octopus' SVT rates here https://octopus.energy/blog/energy-price-cap-oct-2022/
    They've even done the calculations for "typical usage" for each region for easy comparison.
  • QrizB
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    kroggy said:
    I have been comparing tariffs with friends and whilst there is a cap on the maximum £2500 amount, the way the tariffs are implemented seems to vary, some seem to charge a lower Standing Charge and higher energy rate or vice versa.
    This seems unlikely, considering how the EPG has been implemented on top of the Ofgem cap.
    How does your friend's tariff differ from yours?
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  • EDF Eastern rates are exactly the same as yours.
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  • QrizB said:
    kroggy said:
    I have been comparing tariffs with friends and whilst there is a cap on the maximum £2500 amount, the way the tariffs are implemented seems to vary, some seem to charge a lower Standing Charge and higher energy rate or vice versa.
    This seems unlikely, considering how the EPG has been implemented on top of the Ofgem cap.
    How does your friend's tariff differ from yours?
    The OP is correct. This was mentioned on Martin Lewis' TV show the other day. There are differences in both unit rates and standing charges not just between companies, but between regions. 

    mine

    =======================================================


    Supplier: So Energy
    Tariff: So Flex Direct Debit

    Region: Northern

    Tariff rates Prices inclusive of VAT

    Elec Unit rate per kWh: 32.23p

    Gas Unit rate per kWh: 10.19p

    Elec Standing charge: 49.92p per day 

    Gas Standing charge: 28.47p per day

    =======================================================


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  • QrizB
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    QrizB said:
    kroggy said:
    I have been comparing tariffs with friends and whilst there is a cap on the maximum £2500 amount, the way the tariffs are implemented seems to vary, some seem to charge a lower Standing Charge and higher energy rate or vice versa.
    This seems unlikely, considering how the EPG has been implemented on top of the Ofgem cap.
    How does your friend's tariff differ from yours?
    The OP is correct. This was mentioned on Martin Lewis' TV show the other day. There are differences in both unit rates and standing charges not just between companies, but between regions.
    Regional differences are well-known. You can see EDF's complete table here:
    I don't think anyone's going to move house simply for a fractionally lower EPG tariff, though?
    Differences betweeen suppliers are, on the whole, tiny - unless you've got E7 in which case it can be worth switching. There have been several threads about that already.
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  • My Octopus E7 tariff is 
    day 37.38p
    night 14.89p
    SC 44.35p 

    and gas
    10.31p
    SC 26.84

    That’s eastern region. The gas is much of muchness against anyone else’s rates obviously but the E7 rate might be of interest to some. Should also be remembered that 🐙 do a small reduction on the SC. 
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  • I don't think anyone's going to move house simply for a fractionally lower EPG tariff, though?

    @QrizB

    No I think you're right. Possibly too much effort for little return. But I'm considering moving from So Energy as their customer service have been appalling for me recently, I'm considering moving to Octopus because they have better service ratings, they offer £50 credit through refer a friend, and it's just a bonus that their standing charge is less (Oh and I'm warming to CEO Greg Jackson) . I prefer a smaller standing charge and a higher unit rate because I'm in control of the amount of electricity I use, but I can't change the standing charge. 
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  • kroggy
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    QrizB said:
    kroggy said:
    I have been comparing tariffs with friends and whilst there is a cap on the maximum £2500 amount, the way the tariffs are implemented seems to vary, some seem to charge a lower Standing Charge and higher energy rate or vice versa.
    This seems unlikely, considering how the EPG has been implemented on top of the Ofgem cap.
    How does your friend's tariff differ from yours?
    The OP is correct. This was mentioned on Martin Lewis' TV show the other day. There are differences in both unit rates and standing charges not just between companies, but between regions. 

    mine


    Many thanks for your contribution, I have added your rates to the first post.  Hopefully others will post the rates they are paying.
  • kroggy said:
    QrizB said:
    kroggy said:
    I have been comparing tariffs with friends and whilst there is a cap on the maximum £2500 amount, the way the tariffs are implemented seems to vary, some seem to charge a lower Standing Charge and higher energy rate or vice versa.
    This seems unlikely, considering how the EPG has been implemented on top of the Ofgem cap.
    How does your friend's tariff differ from yours?
    The OP is correct. This was mentioned on Martin Lewis' TV show the other day. There are differences in both unit rates and standing charges not just between companies, but between regions. 

    mine


    Many thanks for your contribution, I have added your rates to the first post.  Hopefully others will post the rates they are paying.
    I'd ignore anything that isn't a multi-rate tariff.  None of the other differences actually mean anything.
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