Public sector NHS wage increase 2022

phil_davis

HI I work for an agency who have employed my services with Choice (CHoICE is a wholly owned subsidiary company of South Tyneside and Sunderland NHS Foundation
 Trust) and because its public sector the government has agreed a pay rise for all staff payable in October 2022 and backdated to April 2022. Everyone around me doing the same job has had a pay rise except me, is it right that the pay rise for public sector agency workers don't qualify for this pay rise even thou they do the same job? Phil

billy2shots

phil_davis said:

HI I work for an agency who have employed my services with Choice (CHoICE is a wholly owned subsidiary company of South Tyneside and Sunderland NHS Foundation
 Trust) and because its public sector the government has agreed a pay rise for all staff payable in October 2022 and backdated to April 2022. Everyone around me doing the same job has had a pay rise except me, is it right that the pay rise for public sector agency workers don't qualify for this pay rise even thou they do the same job? Phil

As an agency staff member i presume you have been paid more than those doing the same job as you who are not agency staff. 

Even with their pay rise I would still guess you are paid more than them?

General_Grant

billy2shots said:

phil_davis said:

HI I work for an agency who have employed my services with Choice (CHoICE is a wholly owned subsidiary company of South Tyneside and Sunderland NHS Foundation
 Trust) and because its public sector the government has agreed a pay rise for all staff payable in October 2022 and backdated to April 2022. Everyone around me doing the same job has had a pay rise except me, is it right that the pay rise for public sector agency workers don't qualify for this pay rise even thou they do the same job? Phil

As an agency staff member i presume you have been paid more than those doing the same job as you who are not agency staff. 

Even with their pay rise I would still guess you are paid more than them?

That's not how it necessarily works  with NHS work.

Through a high street agency (not a Trust in-house agency) I worked for the NHS in a Band 8a role  for a couple of years.  After the qualifying period, my pay increased to the equivalent AfC rate (although it was at the national rate rather than the Outer London rate which could have applied).  As an agency worker I also didn't benefit from  entry into an NHS pension scheme  or sick pay so, even allowing for the agency's percentage uplift, my actual cost to the public purse was probably less than someone directly employed.

So the OP has not necessarily been paid more than the directly employed staff.  The fact that CHoICE is an in-house agency may complicate matters.  I'm afraid I'm not up-to-date with this aspect.

phil_davis

I am paid a lot less than employed staff, I get no sickness benefits and only statutory holiday pay. Working as an electrician and getting paid less than supermarket shelf stackers, so personally I find it upsetting when I find the man next to me getting a pay rise and I dont

DanDare999

phil_davis said:

I am paid a lot less than employed staff, I get no sickness benefits and only statutory holiday pay. Working as an electrician and getting paid less than supermarket shelf stackers, so personally I find it upsetting when I find the man next to me getting a pay rise and I dont

If your a qualified electrician then why not seek work with an employer direct rather than working for an agency?

theoretica

Agency workers who have been in the same assignment for over 12 weeks are supposed to have the same pay rate as directly employed people doing the same role.  Do your employer claim they have a loop hole to this?

Undervalued

theoretica said:

Agency workers who have been in the same assignment for over 12 weeks are supposed to have the same pay rate as directly employed people doing the same role.  Do your employer claim they have a loop hole to this?

Indeed.

However there is no obligation to pay all of the employed staff doing a particular job the same rate, providing it is not for a reason that would amount to unlawful discrimination. So it gets complex and it may be that the OP is getting a rate equivalent to some of the staff doing that job. Nothing says his pay has to match the highest paid directly employed person.

phil_davis

been looking at .gov regulations
agency workers regulations 2022
Any agency staff employed over12 weeks are entitled to the same pay and conditions as fulltime staff

billy2shots

phil_davis said:

I am paid a lot less than employed staff, I get no sickness benefits and only statutory holiday pay. Working as an electrician and getting paid less than supermarket shelf stackers, so personally I find it upsetting when I find the man next to me getting a pay rise and I dont

Cake and eat it springs to mind. 

You sacrifice certain employee benefits for the flexibility that working for an agency brings. Being able to chose (turn down) work. 

It sounds like you want to keep that flexibility but still get the same as someone who has to work their required working pattern. 

Tradesmen are in short supply. The decision you need to make is whether you explore other working opportunities or stay. 

Try not to compare yourself to others. 
Are you happy with your working conditions or not. If not then do something about it. If you are, then carry on as you are.