I lost at court for a private car parking ticket, what now?

IdontknowwhereIam

Le_Kirk said:

IdontknowwhereIam said:

This letter I've received from bw legal sounds worrying, I thought there was no risk of a ccj if you lost and paid? Also the court letter says a later date in November not 11th as stated in their letter? 

But, have you paid?  You now have all the info you need to be able to pay in time and not have it on your record.  Just pay it TODAY!  Did you receive a General Notice of Judgment from the court?  What date is on there?  What did the judge say about the date?

Yes I paid it yesterday. I received a general form of Judgment but the amount on there was wrong (I've contacted the court about this because the amount I wrote down and the letter Bw legal sent me both agree but say a different amount to the general form of judgment so I'm sure the court sent the wrong amount in the letter) but the date on the General form of Judgement is 23 November 2022. Don't know why bw legal said 11th November.

The worrying bit is the letter says CCJ was entered against me and it is recorded for 6 years?

IdontknowwhereIam

ukcpm_canSMD said:

IdontknowwhereIam said:

I'd used the templates on here, the judge was in my favour and even agreed the signs were difficult to read. I put emphasis on how hard the signs were to read because of bad lighting, (terms and condition sign didn't have any lights), I'd even submitted a video via usb but he wouldn't use that as it had to be in the courts "drop box" or whatever they use, The signs are genuinely difficult to read.

The best argument I had, I believe the judge thought, was the lease for the carpark was for a term of 3 years and out of date at the time of car parking charge and the parking company had not provided a new lease so he was probably set to rule in my favour but unfortunately I had not put that in my defence, I had put it in my witness statement and accidentally labelled my witness statement as defence. He said it was a technicality but he had to discard the lease as evidence because of a recent ruling at courts of appeal had made it clear he couldn't take into account the evidence if not in my defence.

Non of the other template stuff seem to be considered. The women who was representing the claimant knew her stuff to be honest and held her own against a judge who clearly didn't like parking charges. I was a bit caught in the headlights. 

£200+.

Advantages and disadvantages of appealing? How?

My condolences on your loss.
Out of curiosity was the grand total, including all the made up fees etc that you've been ordered to pay £200? Or is it much more?

Also, I saw that you said that "they" read this forum. would you advice me not to discuss my own defence ( I have "invoices" for parking in my own space)

I'm no expert to be honest, other people on here know loads. If you post stuff just make sure it isn't identifiable to yourself and you should be ok.

The total amount was a little over £200 which included interest etc. 

ukcpm_canSMD

IdontknowwhereIam said:

Le_Kirk said:

IdontknowwhereIam said:

This letter I've received from bw legal sounds worrying, I thought there was no risk of a ccj if you lost and paid? Also the court letter says a later date in November not 11th as stated in their letter? 

But, have you paid?  You now have all the info you need to be able to pay in time and not have it on your record.  Just pay it TODAY!  Did you receive a General Notice of Judgment from the court?  What date is on there?  What did the judge say about the date?

Yes I paid it yesterday. I received a general form of Judgment but the amount on there was wrong (I've contacted the court about this because the amount I wrote down and the letter Bw legal sent me both agree but say a different amount to the general form of judgment so I'm sure the court sent the wrong amount in the letter) but the date on the General form of Judgement is 23 November 2022. Don't know why bw legal said 11th November.

The worrying bit is the letter says CCJ was entered against me and it is recorded for 6 years?

Yes. But if you pay within a month it disappears from ur credit history and any filing

Coupon-mad

IdontknowwhereIam said:

Le_Kirk said:

IdontknowwhereIam said:

This letter I've received from bw legal sounds worrying, I thought there was no risk of a ccj if you lost and paid? Also the court letter says a later date in November not 11th as stated in their letter? 

But, have you paid?  You now have all the info you need to be able to pay in time and not have it on your record.  Just pay it TODAY!  Did you receive a General Notice of Judgment from the court?  What date is on there?  What did the judge say about the date?

Yes I paid it yesterday. I received a general form of Judgment but the amount on there was wrong (I've contacted the court about this because the amount I wrote down and the letter Bw legal sent me both agree but say a different amount to the general form of judgment so I'm sure the court sent the wrong amount in the letter) but the date on the General form of Judgement is 23 November 2022. Don't know why bw legal said 11th November.

The worrying bit is the letter says CCJ was entered against me and it is recorded for 6 years?

When you say you contacted the court, I hope not by phone?

You need to tell the Judge by email that you have paid £... in full which was what you and BW Legal had written down following the hearing.  As such, no CCJ must remain but you would appreciate a new Final Judgment or Order, to be re-issued under the 'slip rule' because this last Order has the amount wrongly calculated.

Copy in BW Legal for openness.

I hope you are right re the amount...are you certain you are correct?

IdontknowwhereIam

Coupon-mad said:

IdontknowwhereIam said:

Le_Kirk said:

IdontknowwhereIam said:

This letter I've received from bw legal sounds worrying, I thought there was no risk of a ccj if you lost and paid? Also the court letter says a later date in November not 11th as stated in their letter? 

But, have you paid?  You now have all the info you need to be able to pay in time and not have it on your record.  Just pay it TODAY!  Did you receive a General Notice of Judgment from the court?  What date is on there?  What did the judge say about the date?

Yes I paid it yesterday. I received a general form of Judgment but the amount on there was wrong (I've contacted the court about this because the amount I wrote down and the letter Bw legal sent me both agree but say a different amount to the general form of judgment so I'm sure the court sent the wrong amount in the letter) but the date on the General form of Judgement is 23 November 2022. Don't know why bw legal said 11th November.

The worrying bit is the letter says CCJ was entered against me and it is recorded for 6 years?

When you say you contacted the court, I hope not by phone?

You need to tell the Judge by email that you have paid £... in full which was what you and BW Legal had written down following the hearing.  As such, no CCJ must remain but you would appreciate a new Final Judgment or Order, to be re-issued under the 'slip rule' because this last Order has the amount wrongly calculated.

Copy in BW Legal for openness.

I hope you are right re the amount...are you certain you are correct?

I phoned the court and the person told me to email the court enquiries email address, which I have done, telling them that the amount they have sent is different to what I have and what bw legal have requested by letter after the hearing and I believe the court has it wrong. I didn't copy bw legal in and I didn't request a new judgment because I did this before I read your reply. I will do this next week.

I'm certain I am right about the amount because:

- I wrote it down
- Bw legal sent me a letter after the court hearing, referencing the same amount I wrote down and requesting payment
- BW Legal sent me a text message yesterday requesting the same amount
- When I phoned BW legal, they quoted the same amount to me that I was required to pay to settle in full

Thanks for the advise.

IdontknowwhereIam

Ok I've just sent another email requesting a new order and to make sure no CCJ and copied bw legal into it.

Thanks

Coupon-mad

And you used the phrase 'slip rule' as advised?

Ed2022

I thought I would post what the slip rule is for those that come across this threat.

What is the slip rule?
https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part40

The slip rule is a process by which the court may correct an accidental slip or omission in a judgment or order (see: CPR 40.12 and CPR PD 40B, paras 4.1 and 4.5). CPR 40.12 provides that the 'court may at any time correct an accidental slip or omission in a judgment or order'.

IdontknowwhereIam

Coupon-mad said:

And you used the phrase 'slip rule' as advised?

Yes the sentence I used was

"I want to make sure no CCJ is remaining as this is worrying me and I'd appreciate a new Final Judgment or Order, to be re-issued under the 'slip rule' because of this wrong amount."

Many thanks for that phrase and information.