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10% loss if fail to complete?

tigertrio
tigertrio Posts: 131 Forumite
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edited 1 November 2022 at 9:50AM in House buying, renting & selling
As far as I am aware, in a standard contract, if you fail to complete, you forfeit 10% of the purchase price plus damages.

What happens in this scenario...


Buyer A (purchase price £250K) > Buyer B (purchase price £500K) > Buyer C (purchase price £1mil)

If contracts have been exchanged, but Buyer A can not complete, they forfeit 10% (25K to Buyer B ). But then Buyer B cannot complete through no fault of their own, do they then owe Buyer C 100K? This does not really seem fair as it was Buyer A causing the issues.

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  • saajan_12
    saajan_12 Posts: 5,329 Forumite
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    tigertrio said:
    As far as I am aware, in a standard contract, if you fail to complete, you forfeit 10% of the purchase price plus damages.

    What happens in this scenario...


    Buyer A (purchase price £250K) > Buyer B (purchase price £500K) > Buyer C (purchase price £1mil)

    If contracts have been exchanged, but Buyer A can not complete, they forfeit 10% (25K to Buyer B ). But then Buyer B cannot complete through no fault of their own, do they then owe Buyer C 100K? This does not really seem fair as it was Buyer A causing the issues.
    B is buying a 500k house? So their 10% deposit would be 50k. which they lose (lets assume C has no damages for ease). 
    Then B's damages are 50k, which they sue A for, so B ends up flat. 

    Note this is if completion fails entirely.. in which case the damages may often exceed the deposits, so the 10% becomes irrelevant. If completion is simply delayed, then the claims are just for the damages. 
  • Ok so you just sue for damages, thank you.
  • Zerforax
    Zerforax Posts: 419 Forumite
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    It rarely happens because you usually exchange contracts very late in the process. It is only if you fail to complete after you have exchanged contracts that forfeiting deposits comes into play. Solicitors usually wait until everything is sorted in the chain before agreeing to exchange.
  • ReadingTim
    ReadingTim Posts: 4,087 Forumite
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    Given it's possible to exchange and complete on the same day, all the pieces of the puzzle have to be in place prior to exchange, with completion being an administrative formality which occurs anything from a few seconds to a couple of weeks afterwards.  The only things I can think of which would prevent that from occurring aren't likely to be within the control of the vendor or buyer, so in reality the situation is extremely unlikely to materialise.  
  • km1500
    km1500 Posts: 2,790 Forumite
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    There are possible scenarios where buyer A cannot complete for example it is discovered that the mortgage application was fraudulent and their offer is pulled or an acrimonious split of a couple or some other similar problem.

    Whereas I agree buyer B can then sue buyer A  for their losses this is not much use if buyer A has no assets

    So although extremely rare it is not impossible that buyer B  could be on the hook for damages to buyer C which they cannot recover from buyer A

     I have no idea if there is anything like 'post contract completion failure' insurance
  • movilogo
    movilogo Posts: 3,235 Forumite
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    10% deposit loss is not the celling, it is the floor! Longer the chain, more risk one has at bottom who fails to complete after contract is exchanged. 

    People often don't realize, how much power the buyer at bottom of chain has (who is not selling). The whole chain rests on that buyer. Longer the chain, more chance that if buyer wants to reduce price before exchange, everyone else would agree. 
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • MobileSaver
    MobileSaver Posts: 4,376 Forumite
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    movilogo said:
    10% deposit loss is not the celling, it is the floor! Longer the chain, more risk one has at bottom who fails to complete after contract is exchanged. 

    People often don't realize, how much power the buyer at bottom of chain has (who is not selling). The whole chain rests on that buyer. Longer the chain, more chance that if buyer wants to reduce price before exchange, everyone else would agree. 
    I don't quite follow your logic here. As you say, failing to complete after exchange carries the most risk for the one at the bottom of the chain.
    Before exchange though, any or all of the chain can pull out or ask for a reduction for any reason; I can't see why the one at the bottom has any more "power" than anyone else?
    Every generation blames the one before...
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  • k12479
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    tigertrio said:
    But then Buyer B cannot complete through no fault of their own...This does not really seem fair as it was Buyer A causing the issues.
    I normally equate the term 'through no fault of their own' as people failing to take any responsibility for their own choices and actions. Buyer B has made their purchase dependent upon Buyer A, bearing some risk in the process. Especially if the following materialises:

    km1500 said:
    ...buyer B can then sue buyer A  for their losses this is not much use if buyer A has no assets

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