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Holiday park home full time resident

I live on a holiday park that has just gone to 52 weeks open from 50. We have no entertainment facilities or swimming pool but we’re happy with this. 
We want to know how to get the £400 energy discount from the government. Our gas and electric have gone up by a high percentage as well as the site fees. 
We are being told by the owners because this is a holiday park we are not entitled to the £400 according to the BPA even though this is our main home and we have high energy bills. 
During the pandemic we did not benefit from the business rate refund our park received even though other parks nearby did get a refund.  They also got site fees refunded.  We just got allowed to stay on site for the two weeks during lockdown in February.
Can we somehow justifiably get this £400 refund as a lot of us are low paid or pensioners and do not have a second home just an address we have to give we do not live at.
Any advice or support would be most appreciated.  My bill for three months in the winter can be usually £600 so I think I will have to wrap up more this year to keep the bill lower. 
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  • MWT
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    It is unclear how any park homes are going to get access to support equivalent to the £400 that those with an electricity account are getting, so it isn't possible to offer any suggestions at the moment unfortunately.
  • Alnat1
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    Curious, if you live there 52 weeks of the year do you have to pay council tax?
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  • MWT
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    I live on a holiday park that has just gone to 52 weeks open from 50. We have no entertainment facilities or swimming pool but we’re happy with this. 
    Has this been formally confirmed in an alteration to your contracts, and hence it is guaranteed for the future, and not just a waiver during covid?

  • If you pay your electricity bill to anyone other than a licenced electricity supplier then you are not eligible for the £400 EBSS rebate.

    There might be some equivalent support through another yet-to-be announced scheme - but this has been "might" for several months now with no significant updates.
  • pochase
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    There was an update last week, but it is as vague as all updates since April.


    Energy Bill Support Scheme Alternative Funding

    This scheme is intended to provide the £400 of support for households across the UK that would otherwise miss out on the Energy Bills Support Scheme – which the vast majority of households are already receiving – as they do not have a domestic electricity contract. It will also support the delivery of £100 Domestic Alternative Fuel Payments where these cannot be automatically delivered to households through other means, such as suppliers. The Alternative Funding will provide the full support this winter, with an announcement on this in due course. The Bill will provide powers to deliver the funding through designated bodies.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/energy-prices-bill-how-households-and-businesses-will-be-supported/how-households-and-businesses-will-be-supported-by-the-energy-prices-bill
  • CIS
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    Alnat1 said:
    Curious, if you live there 52 weeks of the year do you have to pay council tax?

    You'd become liable for any day you were resident in the site.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    CIS said:
    Alnat1 said:
    Curious, if you live there 52 weeks of the year do you have to pay council tax?

    You'd become liable for any day you were resident in the site.
    Which leads me to wonder about this sentence
    … as a lot of us are low paid or pensioners and do not have a second home just an address we have to give we do not live at.

  • MWT
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    CIS said:
    Alnat1 said:
    Curious, if you live there 52 weeks of the year do you have to pay council tax?

    You'd become liable for any day you were resident in the site.
    Which leads me to wonder about this sentence
    … as a lot of us are low paid or pensioners and do not have a second home just an address we have to give we do not live at.

    Hence also my question about the contract...

    Going to be tricky to square that circle, chasing the £400 energy support would also mean accepting the council tax liability I'd have thought?   ... can't have it both ways...
  • Alnat1
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    That's why I was asking.

    I'm not sure that anyone who didn't pay council tax (unless a full time student) would be able to get the £400
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  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    Alnat1 said:
    That's why I was asking.

    I'm not sure that anyone who didn't pay council tax (unless a full time student) would be able to get the £400
    On the other hand, not everyone who pays council tax got the £400, simply because having a council tax liability doesn't mean you have a separate electricity meter into your home with your own separate account.

    Presumably if anyone living in a park home had their own domestic electricity account they would be able to get it, regardless of CT liability, but I imagine that would be extremely rare, even perhaps nonexistent.
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