Octopus Agile vs Tracker vs Flexible

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waqasahmed said:

bristolleedsfan said:

waqasahmed said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

PIL_2 said:

QrizB said:

Octopus Tracker October 2022 v1 has been moved to the"historical" tariffs page

I am not surprised in the slightest. I signed up on Saturday and most of the hours daily (apart from 1600-2000), I am paying 0p for energy consumption!

That sounds like Agile, and only because of the 17p discount.  Prices are relatively low right now, no guarantee how long the lull will last.  

Is there realistically much difference between agile and tracker? 

Tracker tends to have a lower 24 hour daily rate whereas Agile tends to have lower as well as higher rates within 24 hour period

I intend on getting more batteries. Should I then get agile? I also intend on getting more solar panels too 

It is not that simple. Agile pricing is the first to react if there is an energy market upset. If you need to charge a battery from the Grid you would probably be just as well off on an E7 tariff.

Without knowing your annual usage; solar array and battery size no one can advise you.

I have a 6.35kWp array and a 13.5kWh battery. From October to February, I need to charge the battery from the Grid so I am on Go Faster. When my array starts to export to the Grid, I switch to Agile import and Agile export (variable) but as, I say, every user is different. You need to do your own calculations.

bristolleedsfan

waqasahmed said:

bristolleedsfan said:

waqasahmed said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

PIL_2 said:

QrizB said:

Octopus Tracker October 2022 v1 has been moved to the"historical" tariffs page

I am not surprised in the slightest. I signed up on Saturday and most of the hours daily (apart from 1600-2000), I am paying 0p for energy consumption!

That sounds like Agile, and only because of the 17p discount.  Prices are relatively low right now, no guarantee how long the lull will last.  

Is there realistically much difference between agile and tracker? 

Tracker tends to have a lower 24 hour daily rate whereas Agile tends to have lower as well as higher rates within 24 hour period

I intend on getting more batteries. Should I then get agile? I also intend on getting more solar panels too 

I think idea would be to use Agile outgoing in conjunction with Agile incoming

https://octopus.energy/outgoing/

_Sam_

waqasahmed said:

bristolleedsfan said:

waqasahmed said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

PIL_2 said:

QrizB said:

Octopus Tracker October 2022 v1 has been moved to the"historical" tariffs page

I am not surprised in the slightest. I signed up on Saturday and most of the hours daily (apart from 1600-2000), I am paying 0p for energy consumption!

That sounds like Agile, and only because of the 17p discount.  Prices are relatively low right now, no guarantee how long the lull will last.  

Is there realistically much difference between agile and tracker? 

Tracker tends to have a lower 24 hour daily rate whereas Agile tends to have lower as well as higher rates within 24 hour period

I intend on getting more batteries. Should I then get agile? I also intend on getting more solar panels too 

Also, from what I understand you have to be very "switched on" with agile, monitoring prices hourly and half-hourly. Some people find it fun, for others it would do their heads in   

anon_ymous

Dolor said:

waqasahmed said:

bristolleedsfan said:

waqasahmed said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

PIL_2 said:

QrizB said:

Octopus Tracker October 2022 v1 has been moved to the"historical" tariffs page

I am not surprised in the slightest. I signed up on Saturday and most of the hours daily (apart from 1600-2000), I am paying 0p for energy consumption!

That sounds like Agile, and only because of the 17p discount.  Prices are relatively low right now, no guarantee how long the lull will last.  

Is there realistically much difference between agile and tracker? 

Tracker tends to have a lower 24 hour daily rate whereas Agile tends to have lower as well as higher rates within 24 hour period

I intend on getting more batteries. Should I then get agile? I also intend on getting more solar panels too 

It is not that simple. Agile pricing is the first to react if there is an energy market upset. If you need to charge a battery from the Grid you would probably be just as well off on an E7 tariff.

Without knowing your annual usage; solar array and battery size no one can advise you.

I have a 6.35kWp array and a 13.5kWh battery. From October to February, I need to charge the battery from the Grid so I am on Go Faster. When my array starts to export to the Grid, I switch to Agile import and Agile export (variable) but as, I say, every user is different. You need to do your own calculations.

That's the same for me. Annual usage should be around 3700 kWh though that's if I had zero solar panels. I don't have an EV

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bristolleedsfan said:

waqasahmed said:

bristolleedsfan said:

waqasahmed said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

PIL_2 said:

QrizB said:

Octopus Tracker October 2022 v1 has been moved to the"historical" tariffs page

I am not surprised in the slightest. I signed up on Saturday and most of the hours daily (apart from 1600-2000), I am paying 0p for energy consumption!

That sounds like Agile, and only because of the 17p discount.  Prices are relatively low right now, no guarantee how long the lull will last.  

Is there realistically much difference between agile and tracker? 

Tracker tends to have a lower 24 hour daily rate whereas Agile tends to have lower as well as higher rates within 24 hour period

I intend on getting more batteries. Should I then get agile? I also intend on getting more solar panels too 

I think idea would be to use Agile outgoing in conjunction with Agile incoming

https://octopus.energy/outgoing/

I repeat: it is not that simple. There is little point on being on Agile Outgoing in the Winter unless the battery can be forced to discharge when export prices are high. When solar generation is low, then the battery needs to be charged from the Grid. 

Yes, Agile is competitive at the moment because gas prices are low. This could change next week. If a consumer is prepared to stay engaged and be pro-active then Agile incoming works but it isn’t for everybody - and no single solution suits all.

These were the Agile prices overnight for my region. As you can see, if I needed to charge a battery then I would be better off on E7 (assuming no EV) and Octopus Agile Outgoing Variable:

k_man

_Sam_ said:

waqasahmed said:

bristolleedsfan said:

waqasahmed said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

PIL_2 said:

QrizB said:

Octopus Tracker October 2022 v1 has been moved to the"historical" tariffs page

I am not surprised in the slightest. I signed up on Saturday and most of the hours daily (apart from 1600-2000), I am paying 0p for energy consumption!

That sounds like Agile, and only because of the 17p discount.  Prices are relatively low right now, no guarantee how long the lull will last.  

Is there realistically much difference between agile and tracker? 

Tracker tends to have a lower 24 hour daily rate whereas Agile tends to have lower as well as higher rates within 24 hour period

I intend on getting more batteries. Should I then get agile? I also intend on getting more solar panels too 

Also, from what I understand you have to be very "switched on" with agile, monitoring prices hourly and half-hourly. Some people find it fun, for others it would do their heads in   

Indeed.
Agile includes a premium/penalty for the peak evening usage period so is usually (unless caps have been hit all day) more expensive on average than the equivalent Tracker.
If usage follows the typical pattern, then Agile will cost more than Tracker, however if usage can be moved away from peak evening, and ideally to the low cost periods (usually overnight/early hours of the morning) then Agile becomes a better option. This is especially true when plunge pricing occurs

So unless you already have the right atypical usage pattern during the day, or are prepared to load shift, Tracker is an easier option, albeit with less potential for savings