What type of filler for minor dips and bumps on a painted wall.

fenwick458

JohnB47 said:

fenwick458 said:

My choice would be any fine surface filler Eg easyfill, toupret etc. (not ready mixed)
coupled with a decent quality trowel 
and a trough

Interesting that you say not ready mixed. Somehow I feel that ready mixed would be finer, not sure why.

I've found Toupret fine surface filler available locally and I'm thinking of going for the ready mixed option.

ready mixed stuff has an additive in there to keep it from going off in the tub I think, and as a result it's less stable and more draggy, it's just not the same to work with. IMO can't beat powder you can mix it how you like, if you have loads of tiny marks and holes make it like slurry and just trowel the whole wall, with a 300mm trowel that doesn't take long and theres very little to sand off. then if I want to fill some slightly bigger holes on the same wall just make it a bit stiffer so it won't run out
I have tub of ready mixed filler it's good for filling the odd hole or gap. anything bigger and get the powder, trough and proper trowel out. 

greensalad

Having used what feels like every type of filler on my pockmarked house, I would say "Make Good" Jointing & Filling Compound is by far the best. Available at B&Q and Screwfix. It's nice and wet/smooth when it goes on, dries fairly quickly (to completely white) and sands off really well. If you have very deep holes I would go for a simple quick drying Polyfilla in a tube that you can squirt right in, let that dry off completely and then Make Good over the top. Make Good is by far the best I've found for surface cracks and dips, filling larger areas. 

JohnB47

fenwick458 said:

JohnB47 said:

fenwick458 said:

My choice would be any fine surface filler Eg easyfill, toupret etc. (not ready mixed)
coupled with a decent quality trowel 
and a trough

Interesting that you say not ready mixed. Somehow I feel that ready mixed would be finer, not sure why.

I've found Toupret fine surface filler available locally and I'm thinking of going for the ready mixed option.

ready mixed stuff has an additive in there to keep it from going off in the tub I think, and as a result it's less stable and more draggy, it's just not the same to work with. IMO can't beat powder you can mix it how you like, if you have loads of tiny marks and holes make it like slurry and just trowel the whole wall, with a 300mm trowel that doesn't take long and theres very little to sand off. then if I want to fill some slightly bigger holes on the same wall just make it a bit stiffer so it won't run out
I have tub of ready mixed filler it's good for filling the odd hole or gap. anything bigger and get the powder, trough and proper trowel out. 

Hmmm. I've used 'common or garden' powder filler for years on cracks and holes. Typically the Dyall stuff from B&Q. It does well on fairly large cracks etc. but I used it recently on a few shallow bumps (on a different wall) and then painted over. It just curled up as the paint dried- wouldn't stay stuck to the surface at all.

Wouldn't a different powder filler just do the same?

Eldi_Dos

There was a recent thread on here about a similar problem with a ceiling. One of the posters reported good results when painting with a Anti Reflex paint that made any blemishes less noticeable. I have not used it myself but intend to next time I am decorating a ceiling.

fenwick458

JohnB47 said:

fenwick458 said:

JohnB47 said:

fenwick458 said:

My choice would be any fine surface filler Eg easyfill, toupret etc. (not ready mixed)
coupled with a decent quality trowel 
and a trough

Interesting that you say not ready mixed. Somehow I feel that ready mixed would be finer, not sure why.

I've found Toupret fine surface filler available locally and I'm thinking of going for the ready mixed option.

ready mixed stuff has an additive in there to keep it from going off in the tub I think, and as a result it's less stable and more draggy, it's just not the same to work with. IMO can't beat powder you can mix it how you like, if you have loads of tiny marks and holes make it like slurry and just trowel the whole wall, with a 300mm trowel that doesn't take long and theres very little to sand off. then if I want to fill some slightly bigger holes on the same wall just make it a bit stiffer so it won't run out
I have tub of ready mixed filler it's good for filling the odd hole or gap. anything bigger and get the powder, trough and proper trowel out. 

Hmmm. I've used 'common or garden' powder filler for years on cracks and holes. Typically the Dyall stuff from B&Q. It does well on fairly large cracks etc. but I used it recently on a few shallow bumps (on a different wall) and then painted over. It just curled up as the paint dried- wouldn't stay stuck to the surface at all.

Wouldn't a different powder filler just do the same?

sounds like the wall wasn't properly primed, you never want to apply filler to dusty dry walls, it just sucks the moisture out of the filler too fast and it doesn't cure properly. either dampen it down, or just give it a mist coat with watered down white emulsion.
either that or the filler was bad, it doesn't really last long once you open the bag

davemorton

The Anti Reflex paint  is wonderful paint.  I painted a quite marked/dirty ceiling, covered in one coat.  Lovely stuff, and no flashing. 

JohnB47

davemorton said:

The Anti Reflex paint  is wonderful paint.  I painted a quite marked/dirty ceiling, covered in one coat.  Lovely stuff, and no flashing. 

davemorton said:

The Anti Reflex paint  is wonderful paint.  I painted a quite marked/dirty ceiling, covered in one coat.  Lovely stuff, and no flashing. 

Out of interest, what is 'flashing'? I daren't do an internet search for it!

davemorton

Flashing is when you cab see the difference in the paint in certain lights/angles, e.g. when you can see the difference between the cutting in and the roller work. 

JohnB47

davemorton said:

Flashing is when you cab see the difference in the paint in certain lights/angles, e.g. when you can see the difference between the cutting in and the roller work. 

Ah yes thank you.

I see that in my bathroom, painted by a  'professional '. There's a band of brushed paint in a certain line, then an adjacent area of rollered paint. The line between is obvious but thankfully only on small areas.