Parking Signs in Restricted Parking Zone - seem wrong?

stator

Take a look at these parking signs. (I haven't been given a ticket or anything)

The first sign clearly means that you can't park anywhere unless it says you can park there.

The second and third signs are posted next to painted public parking bays. However, they seem to indicate the opposite of what I believe they intend.

The signs to me say "Cars may park here from Midnight to 9am". Previously these parking bays only had signs saying "no overnight parking/camping".

When I visited this area (New Polzeath, Cornwall) everyone was parking in these bays during the day. Google maps shows the old signs

There are similar signs new Penzance

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.0916167,-5.5371794,3a,30.4y,32.17h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYY36_LYSBxXronLVjDPDhQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

For white signs you expect it to tell you the restrictions, eg

If the purpose was to ban parking during hours, shouldn't the signs be yellow?

Herzlos

I'm guessing this is somewhere touristy?

The idea seems to be that you can only park overnight in the summer, or all winter, because otherwise the place would be overrun by tourists?

stator

Yeah, I've seen them in Cornwall near beaches.

user1977

stator said:

If the purpose was to ban parking during hours, shouldn't the signs be yellow?

Yellow if there wasn't the general restriction covering the whole zone. But given there is, I think they should be white ones but have "9am - midnight". Somebody c0cked up - they'll figure it out if people start appealing tickets...

Manxman_in_exile

I think that (for whatever reason) those signs are permitting overnight parking during summer months when it isn't permitted (for whatever reason) during winter months.  I assume it's in a touristy/surfing/beach-camping area?

But if I wanted to know if that was what the council really intended, I'd ask them... 

user1977

Manxman_in_exile said:

I think that (for whatever reason) those signs are permitting overnight parking during summer months when it isn't permitted (for whatever reason) during winter months.

No, the zone signage doesn't set any restrictions during the winter. So what the combination of signs means is that during the summer, the only time you can park in those bays is overnight. Doubt that was the intention.

Manxman_in_exile

user1977 said:

Manxman_in_exile said:

I think that (for whatever reason) those signs are permitting overnight parking during summer months when it isn't permitted (for whatever reason) during winter months.

No, the zone signage doesn't set any restrictions during the winter. So what the combination of signs means is that during the summer, the only time you can park in those bays is overnight. Doubt that was the intention.

Ah. 

Yes - I agree with your first two sentences.

You may also have justification for doubting the council's intention - but it still might actually be what they meant - no matter how daft it seems...

user1977

Manxman_in_exile said:

user1977 said:

Manxman_in_exile said:

I think that (for whatever reason) those signs are permitting overnight parking during summer months when it isn't permitted (for whatever reason) during winter months.

No, the zone signage doesn't set any restrictions during the winter. So what the combination of signs means is that during the summer, the only time you can park in those bays is overnight. Doubt that was the intention.

You may also have justification for doubting the council's intention - but it still might actually be what they meant - no matter how daft it seems...

If that's the case, Streetview's evidence suggests during the day in September last year, nobody understood the restriction - or they were confident nobody would be enforcing it.

Manxman_in_exile

Somebody needs to go and park their car in one of those signed bays for the next 18 days and see whether they get a ticket for parking between midnight and 9am, or for parking between 9am and midnight.

Of course, they might not get any tickets at all...