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  • k_man
    k_man Posts: 1,636 Forumite
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    To the OP, did you accidentally select I am a US citizen
    (or similar) during the application process?

    I did this once, as the applications seem to sneak that question in, even after confirming you are a UK resident/citizen/tax payer (can't remember the exact terminology used)
  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 18,078 Forumite
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    Daliah said:
    bankman28 said:
    No, UK citizen.
    Difficult to understand why you would fall under FATCA. What if any connection do you have with the US?
    They arent saying they call under FATCA, they said they wanted a self certification that they don't fall under FATCA. I am fairly certain for our business account we had to make declarations in relation to FATCA despite having no obvious US connections
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,586 Forumite
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    They arent saying they call under FATCA, they said they wanted a self certification that they don't fall under FATCA.

    This makes no sense at all.

    Do you mean that the bank where you hold your account (what kind of account is this?) has stated that it is unaffected by FATCA but wants you to confirm that you have no FATCA obligations?

    See

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79535683/#Comment_79535683

  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 18,078 Forumite
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    xylophone said:
    They arent saying they call under FATCA, they said they wanted a self certification that they don't fall under FATCA.

    This makes no sense at all.

    Do you mean that the bank where you hold your account (what kind of account is this?) has stated that it is unaffected by FATCA but wants you to confirm that you have no FATCA obligations?

    See

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79535683/#Comment_79535683

    No, I am saying they want you to confirm that you have no FATCA obligations... they are not stating you do or do not up front.
  • xylophone
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    No, I am saying they want you to confirm that you have no FATCA obligations..

    Well that seems simple enough then - if you have no FATCA obligations, just confirm this to the bank.

  • Hi there, Many thanks for the replies.
    I am still confused as to why one day a bank officer woke up and decided "let's do a deep analysis of this guy". However, I didn't see any personal advantage in challenging this and I only saw more problems ahead if I didn't provide the information. So I have already provided it and I really hope that this is the problem, whatever the problem was, over with.
    It seems very fluid what the bank can ask for, there doesn't seem to be a list available where I can find, that defines what a bank can ask for.

  • Anyway, many thanks for all the helpful replies, and suggestions.
  • One question confuses me most. My pension is not paid into this bank account, so I'm not at all sure why they would quiz me about it?
  • wmb194
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    edited 13 October 2022 at 10:04AM
    bankman28 said:
    One question confuses me most. My pension is not paid into this bank account, so I'm not at all sure why they would quiz me about it?
    My guess is they want to know that your deposits are coming from somewhere credible and that it matched the "occupation" or lack therof and rough income level that you no doubt stated when you opened the account. Perhaps they saw lots of "small transactions" over many months and wondered whether it was a prelude to something as small initial transactions are often used by fraudsters to test whether an account is working or not*.

    *You see evidence of this in many of the savings accounts threads where posters say they sent a £1 test payment to a new account then followed by a far, far larger payment and then they were blocked and had to call the bank's/BS's fraud line to have things unfrozen. Some banks seem to be more sensitive than others - Santander... - but this is one of the sorts of pattern that fraud systems are looking for.
  • DullGreyGuy
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    bankman28 said:
    One question confuses me most. My pension is not paid into this bank account, so I'm not at all sure why they would quiz me about it?
    They still want to know where the ultimate source of your income is from... would be too easy to wash money if they simply accepted that the £50k a month coming into your account was from "your other current account" rather than asking where that money was ultimately coming from.
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