Energy Grant in Specific Situation

throughtheblue

I did post a couple of months ago regarding the £400 energy grant, and have been unable to find how I could access support in my situation. 

My situation - I rent a studio/cottage from the landlord, that live directly opposite me in a separate property (the studio is on their land). I don't have an electricity account or relationship with a provider, my electricity comes via the landlords property/account where I have a sub-meter and pay them for the electricity used based on the unit price of their current tariff. 

I'm aware that tenants with electricity costs included in their rental, should receive the discount from their landlord. I don't have fixed electricity costs included with my rent, but pay for what I actually use. My landlord has not mentioned anything regarding the £400 grant as of yet. To confuse matters, I'm not being charged electricity at the moment, due to the council finding bacteria in the water supply, so my landlord deemed it fair not to charge to electricity until resolved (it's a natural supply, with UV/Filtration which has been fixed, but waiting on results of new sample). 

I've only just moved, and don't want to sour relations as in a way, I'm paying less by not having to cover my previous standing charges on gas and electricity, but I'm more concerned with landlords following the letter of the law, without me having to tell them.

chris_n

Unless there is a seperate meter supplied directly by an energy supplier (I suspect not In your case) you are not entitled to the £400.
If your landlord has a domestic supply and is sub metering you from that supply he will receive £400 from the energy supplier, this is his money to do with as he sees fit. He will not be getting £400 for you. If he is on a commercial tarrif there is no £400 anyway.
You fall into the category of having a non standard supply, as far as I know the government have not yet announced the specifics of how you will get help.

Alnat1

If you're not paying standing charges and only paying for the units you use, you're already getting a decent discount. Maybe you have to accept that's as good as it can get in your non-standard situation.

throughtheblue

Alnat1 said:

If you're not paying standing charges and only paying for the units you use, you're already getting a decent discount. Maybe you have to accept that's as good as it can get in your non-standard situation.

I'm not as concerned about the money, rather the principle. The discount is balanced out, by the fact that I don't have gas, but an electric immersion.

Bradden

@throughtheblue focusing on the principle element  - you aren't a customer of the electric supplier so are not eligible for the grant - this is balanced out by the saving you make by not paying a standing charge,

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The landlord is following the law if they are charging you the price that they are paying. 

There is no legal requirement for the landlord to give you their energy rebate, and you don’t have a standard domestic electricity account so you are not eligible for your own.

throughtheblue

Bradden said:

@throughtheblue focusing on the principle element  - you aren't a customer of the electric supplier so are not eligible for the grant - this is balanced out by the saving you make by not paying a standing charge,

That's completely arbitrary. That implies that the rhetoric of support for 'every household', should be replaced with, 'support for customers with a direct account with the electricity supplier'. I have little influence or ability to change the infrastructure of my inherited energy set up, but do pay for the energy that I use like most. 
Maybe landlords who are unnecessarily allowed to own depleted housing stock for income should be thankful of their position and not receive the £400 energy grant, it's just relativity. 

Alnat1

You could always ask your landlord to charge you 46p a day standing charge, like people with a standard electricity supply account have to pay. That would cost you £167.90.

He might then share his £400 and give you £200. 

throughtheblue

Alnat1 said:

You could always ask your landlord to charge you 46p a day standing charge, like people with a standard electricity supply account have to pay. That would cost you £167.90.

He might then share his £400 and give you £200. 

I was really just interested in finding out if things were in order, which sound like they are which is good so thanks.

I wouldn't want my landlords entitlement, but just find the government create this rhetoric of 'every household', but then if you're in a non standard situation you're either not, 'entitled' or 'eligible'. For people in non standard situations, they could do something like apply the discount to the council tax instead. 

People say it's the best the government can do without incurring even more costs, but then if you look at how much money was lost from the covid business funds through fraud, it's sometimes essential to spend more on a better system.

BUFF

throughtheblue said:

I wouldn't want my landlords entitlement, but just find the government create this rhetoric of 'every household', but then if you're in a non standard situation you're either not, 'entitled' or 'eligible'. For people in non standard situations, they could do something like apply the discount to the council tax instead. 

People say it's the best the government can do without incurring even more costs, but then if you look at how much money was lost from the covid business funds through fraud, it's sometimes essential to spend more on a better system.

They are e.g. for people in park homes or those with solid fuel etc.
It is just not economical/feasible to have a solution for absolutely every potential situation.