PCN but not actually 'Parked'

minti22

Hi - I was waiting for my partner to be released from Hospital, there's no phone signal so I didn't know where she was and vice versa, so I had to wait close to the exit. It was late evening, raining and visibility was terrible. I waited in my vehicle for just over an hour and wasn't parked as far as I knew in a controlled area, in fact I had driven around that area for some time stopping occasionally. Now I have a PCN from a BPA member but the 2 photo's of the vehicle are barely visible, they show the lights on (so clearly the vehicle wasnt parked as such, just stopped) and the reg, but there's no indication of the actual location other than the general Hospital area. I have complained to PALS. The PCN was by post so I'll wait and appeal in a couple of weeks. Is there any rules that state the photo evidence needs to be clearer? Thanks

Umkomaas

The PCN was by post so I'll wait and appeal in a couple of weeks.

No point in waiting with a postal PCN (different with a windscreen PCN). 

Is there any rules that state the photo evidence needs to be clearer?

Standard ANPR capture - into then out of the site - no requirement for 'clearer' photos, I'm afraid. 

Appeal using the blue text initial appeal template from the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post to get you underway.

Which parking firm is pursuing you?

minti22

Thanks its CPP (car parking partnership)

Umkomaas

minti22 said:

Thanks its CPP (car parking partnership)

Part of the ParkingEye conglomerate.  Does the back of the Notice to Keeper include a paragraph headed 'Protection of Freedoms Act'? 

fisherjim

minti22 said:

 I waited in my vehicle for just over an hour

Then they will say you should have paid, you were in a car park for over an hour after driving through anpr catch em all cameras.

You are going to have to look for technicalities with this one

minti22

Umkomaas said:

minti22 said:

Thanks its CPP (car parking partnership)

Part of the ParkingEye conglomerate.  Does the back of the Notice to Keeper include a paragraph headed 'Protection of Freedoms Act'? 

Yes it does

Coupon-mad

I would aak in the appeal for the full image logs from the ANPR system, showing every time the car was captured on ANPR on site that evening. Not just two carefully selected images that don't show where the car is. This is needed because the car was driving round to pick up a patient, not parked, and the images appear to be from two different car parks on site. The car would have been captured on camera several times in different areas and roadways without ever breaching a term on any signs. If they disagree, CPP must provide the ANPR log showing which car parks the car was passing through, and precisely when.

This is why you need the full ANPR log:
http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2016/03/parkingeye-lose-in-court-accuse-drivers.html?m=1

Umkomaas

minti22 said:

Umkomaas said:

minti22 said:

Thanks its CPP (car parking partnership)

Part of the ParkingEye conglomerate.  Does the back of the Notice to Keeper include a paragraph headed 'Protection of Freedoms Act'? 

Yes it does

No loophole on that front then. Get your initial appeal in then read the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, third post, which covers POPLA appeals where elements such as poor signage (particularly if dark at the time of the event and signs not independently illuminated) can be a winning point. 

minti22

Well following an email to PALS (as suggested on here) they will cancel the charge !

Thank you all for your kind help. Much appreciated.

Umkomaas

minti22 said:

Well following an email to PALS (as suggested on here) they will cancel the charge !

Thank you all for your kind help. Much appreciated.

Nicely done. PALS can be very helpful most times. You've dealt with this very well. Monkey off your back. 

fisherjim

Plan A works again, it is surprising how many people don't follow it even when prompted well done!