Warm air heater removal

Phil4432

danrv said:

diystarter7 said:

danrv said:

I’ll give it to early next week but I’m probably on my own with it given I’ve had nothing back from enquiries so far.
I may just take it out as my neighbours did with theirs. A plumber helped and there was no testing or specific professional involvement.

Best to get it checked or get a plumber to do it.

They haven’t got back. I’d like to get going with it as it’s pulling my house down (cracks in the walls around it).

Definitely don't let anyone handle asbestos, unless its an asbestos professional.  You'll probably need to get it tested, and then if it proves to be high content AIB, and it most probably is, then you'll need a licensed company.

This is not cheap, but its peace of mind forever and potentially increases the value of your home.

Don't let some tradesmen who doesn't give a damn about himself, you or your family, handle material he is not legally allowed to handle.  According to HSE, correct notification must be give to handle certain types of asbestos.

I've been through this with an old warm air system.  Any plumber who says he'll sort out the asbestos is a criminal as far as I'm concerned.  They are risking people's lives. 

Are you looking to replace the warm air heater, or go with rads?

danrv

Phil4432 said:

danrv said:

diystarter7 said:

danrv said:

I’ll give it to early next week but I’m probably on my own with it given I’ve had nothing back from enquiries so far.
I may just take it out as my neighbours did with theirs. A plumber helped and there was no testing or specific professional involvement.

Best to get it checked or get a plumber to do it.

They haven’t got back. I’d like to get going with it as it’s pulling my house down (cracks in the walls around it).

Are you looking to replace the warm air heater, or go with rads?

I installed multi split aircon a little over a year ago after much research. It’s for the main living areas and I use cheap convectors for upstairs.

danrv

Similar post here:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3330454/removal-of-1970s-warm-air-heating-unit-containing-asbestos
Won’t be paying £2k that’s for sure.

danrv

Had some info back from Electricaire parts retailer. 
The older Unidare heaters use the date of
manufacture for the serial no.
Models containing asbestos have the last two digits below 74.
The company suggests, from the rating plate serial no. that mine is a later model.

List here:
https://www.armco.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/List-of-storage-heaters-containing-asbestos-updated-Aug-2019.xlsx

Rating plate:

danrv

Phil4432 said:

danrv said:

diystarter7 said:

danrv said:

I’ll give it to early next week but I’m probably on my own with it given I’ve had nothing back from enquiries so far.
I may just take it out as my neighbours did with theirs. A plumber helped and there was no testing or specific professional involvement.

Best to get it checked or get a plumber to do it.

They haven’t got back. I’d like to get going with it as it’s pulling my house down (cracks in the walls around it).

Definitely don't let anyone handle asbestos, unless its an asbestos professional.  

The council have been helpful but one of the listed companies is taking forever to get back.
I’ll probably end up dismantling it myself and using diluted PVA spray inside. I think the insulation is sheets rather than AIB.

danrv

This is one big storage heater.
It’s all off at the mains but probably best to get a no contact tester anyway. There’s also an old Satchwell thermostat in the adjacent room which I need to remove. 
Just an update.

danrv

Phil4432 said:

Best to assess what type of asbestos you are dealing with, I'd get a local asbestos company to come down and give an opinion and probably a test.

If you are dealing with high content asbestos, you'd need a licensed asbestos company to assist with removal.  HSE would require a notification, which the company would sort out.

I had an old warm air system with central heating.  To save much headache and heartache, get the asbestos checked and then planned for its safe removal first and foremost.

Have had a reply back from a specialist contractor through the local council. Quote for heater removal is £3500 approx. This is based on specs I sent and a couple of photos of the heater.
Not sure though, if they know what type, (if any) of asbestos the insulation contains.
Testing would involve a pre visit so this quote does the complete job, asbestos or not. 
They'll erect a full enclosure around the unit and the air will be monitored by an independent UKAS accredited laboratory.
That’s the proper and safest way to do it but is a bit expensive so it'll be DIY now.
Thanks for the replies and help.

Phil4432

danrv said:

Phil4432 said:

Best to assess what type of asbestos you are dealing with, I'd get a local asbestos company to come down and give an opinion and probably a test.

If you are dealing with high content asbestos, you'd need a licensed asbestos company to assist with removal.  HSE would require a notification, which the company would sort out.

I had an old warm air system with central heating.  To save much headache and heartache, get the asbestos checked and then planned for its safe removal first and foremost.

Have had a reply back from a specialist contractor through the local council. Quote for heater removal is £3500 approx. This is based on specs I sent and a couple of photos of the heater.
Not sure though, if they know what type, (if any) of asbestos the insulation contains.
Testing would involve a pre visit so this quote does the complete job, asbestos or not. 
They'll erect a full enclosure around the unit and the air will be monitored by an independent UKAS accredited laboratory.
That’s the proper and safest way to do it but is a bit expensive so it'll be DIY now.
Thanks for the replies and help.

They need to come down and have a look, before giving a quote IMO.

If it high content asbestos, you really don't want to touch it.

Get a local asbestos company to have a look.  With tests, that should be less than £100.  What about the flue?  If that is to be altered, it may be concrete asbestos.

My advice is to do this properly and safely. 
https://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/home.htm

danrv

Phil4432 said:

danrv said:

Phil4432 said:

Best to assess what type of asbestos you are dealing with, I'd get a local asbestos company to come down and give an opinion and probably a test.

If you are dealing with high content asbestos, you'd need a licensed asbestos company to assist with removal.  HSE would require a notification, which the company would sort out.

I had an old warm air system with central heating.  To save much headache and heartache, get the asbestos checked and then planned for its safe removal first and foremost.

Have had a reply back from a specialist contractor through the local council. Quote for heater removal is £3500 approx. This is based on specs I sent and a couple of photos of the heater.
Not sure though, if they know what type, (if any) of asbestos the insulation contains.
Testing would involve a pre visit so this quote does the complete job, asbestos or not. 
They'll erect a full enclosure around the unit and the air will be monitored by an independent UKAS accredited laboratory.
That’s the proper and safest way to do it but is a bit expensive so it'll be DIY now.
Thanks for the replies and help.

Get a local asbestos company to have a look.  With tests, that should be less than £100.  What about the flue?  If that is to be altered, it may be concrete asbestos.

I could ask them if they can test the insulation first. The flue is galvanised steel ducting that feeds warm air to the rooms.

GDB2222

The danger depends on how old you are. Mesothelioma takes 20-30 years to develop, and I will most likely die from something else first.  Asbestos removal should be done by 80 year olds.