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Burning Pallets, Battens and More in Wood Burner?

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  • Maxson
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    Wood burning stoves are a bad source of pollution in suburban areas. You should only be burning specially dried wood certified for home heating.
  • Woolsery
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    edited 11 October 2022 at 7:50AM
    Maxson said:
    Wood burning stoves are a bad source of pollution in suburban areas. You should only be burning specially dried wood certified for home heating.
    Youe advice is unclear, What exactly do you mean by 'specially dried?' And if the wood is 'certified,' who does the certifying?
  • GDB2222
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    Wood burning in homes produces more small particle pollution than all road traffic in the UK, according to revised government data.



    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/15/wood-burners-emit-more-particle-pollution-than-traffic-uk-data-shows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Woolsery
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    GDB2222 said:

    Wood burning in homes produces more small particle pollution than all road traffic in the UK, according to revised government data.
    Perhaps the huge amount of small particle pollution caused by car tyre and brake wear ought to be added to the road traffic data? After all, no tyres no traffic and no distribution of all the things we take for granted.

  • GDB2222
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    edited 11 October 2022 at 9:57AM
    Woolsery said:
    GDB2222 said:

    Wood burning in homes produces more small particle pollution than all road traffic in the UK, according to revised government data.
    Perhaps the huge amount of small particle pollution caused by car tyre and brake wear ought to be added to the road traffic data? After all, no tyres no traffic and no distribution of all the things we take for granted.

    There’s nothing obvious  in the government report  that says that they omitted that. Do you have a source showing that they did? 

    The report does specifically mention tyres and brakes as a source, and even mentions the percentage, so I think that you will have a hard time showing they forgot it.



    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Woolsery
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    GDB2222 said:
    Woolsery said:
    GDB2222 said:

    Wood burning in homes produces more small particle pollution than all road traffic in the UK, according to revised government data.
    Perhaps the huge amount of small particle pollution caused by car tyre and brake wear ought to be added to the road traffic data? After all, no tyres no traffic and no distribution of all the things we take for granted.

    The report does specifically mention tyres and brakes as a source, and even mentions the percentage, so I think that you will have a hard time showing they forgot it.
    My bad. I assumed the two types of combustion were being compared. I have no problem with removing wood burners from urban situations; in fact I'm trying to persuade a girl friend not to install one as she has alternatives. I'm not so keen to stop using my own, given that I'm rural, there's no gas here and people benefit from the trees and woodland I plant and maintain.

  • GDB2222
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    There might be  filters available?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Apodemus
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    Woolsery said:
    GDB2222 said:
    Woolsery said:
    GDB2222 said:

    Wood burning in homes produces more small particle pollution than all road traffic in the UK, according to revised government data.
    Perhaps the huge amount of small particle pollution caused by car tyre and brake wear ought to be added to the road traffic data? After all, no tyres no traffic and no distribution of all the things we take for granted.

    The report does specifically mention tyres and brakes as a source, and even mentions the percentage, so I think that you will have a hard time showing they forgot it.
    My bad. I assumed the two types of combustion were being compared. I have no problem with removing wood burners from urban situations; in fact I'm trying to persuade a girl friend not to install one as she has alternatives. I'm not so keen to stop using my own, given that I'm rural, there's no gas here and people benefit from the trees and woodland I plant and maintain.

    Yes, but there are a lot of odd things about that Gov't webpage.   They report changes to percentages for each source but also indicate a hugely falling overall trend.  This would suggest that actual emmissions in some of the categories could be falling, even if the percentage contributed by that source is rising.  It's also not clear whether they are reporting percentages of total PM2.5s or of anthropogenic PM2.5s and it is difficult to make their numbers add up either way.  Something like 48% of PM2.5s are non-anthropogenic.
  • Woolsery
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    GDB2222 said:
    There might be  filters available?
    Yes you'd think so. More cost-effective perhaps than a conversion to a heat pump, which is the modern option for new builds here.

  • Effician
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    Apodemus said:
    Woolsery said:
    GDB2222 said:
    Woolsery said:
    GDB2222 said:

    Wood burning in homes produces more small particle pollution than all road traffic in the UK, according to revised government data.
    Perhaps the huge amount of small particle pollution caused by car tyre and brake wear ought to be added to the road traffic data? After all, no tyres no traffic and no distribution of all the things we take for granted.

    The report does specifically mention tyres and brakes as a source, and even mentions the percentage, so I think that you will have a hard time showing they forgot it.
    My bad. I assumed the two types of combustion were being compared. I have no problem with removing wood burners from urban situations; in fact I'm trying to persuade a girl friend not to install one as she has alternatives. I'm not so keen to stop using my own, given that I'm rural, there's no gas here and people benefit from the trees and woodland I plant and maintain.

    Yes, but there are a lot of odd things about that Gov't webpage.   They report changes to percentages for each source but also indicate a hugely falling overall trend.  This would suggest that actual emmissions in some of the categories could be falling, even if the percentage contributed by that source is rising.  It's also not clear whether they are reporting percentages of total PM2.5s or of anthropogenic PM2.5s and it is difficult to make their numbers add up either way.  Something like 48% of PM2.5s are non-anthropogenic.
    Yep, pm 2.5 out of our control is almost 50% ( pollen, sea spray ? & imported from abroad), it's worth noting the traffic was down ~20% due to the pandemic when the report was concluded in 2020.
    I can see the issues with pm 2.5 but as far as i'm concerned i'll do my best to keep the pollution from my stove as low as i possibly can, this also means i get as much heat as possible from as little wood as possible  but only by burning the wood when it's at it's best in as efficient stove as i can afford whilst also sourcing the trees from within a 5 mile radius from home.
    When we as a nation stop offshoring all our pollution & the great & good also do their bit i may have a different view.
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