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Gavin83 said:

Could you change the orientation of the shower so the entrance is where the screen currently is and vice versa with the shower on the back wall? You might be able to fit the sink on the back wall between the window and shower this way.

It was me that mentioned tanking earlier. Essentially you do it to make things waterproof and the tiled surface nor the hardiebacker are waterproof. 

You need to tank the areas that’ll actually be in contact with water. For a sealed shower it’ll be the shower area itself. For a wetroom you’re meant to tank the whole room as the idea of a wetroom is the whole thing can get wet. If you’ve got a screen and an area you’re confident won’t get wet though you could probably skip some of it, although this is a bit of a bodge.

Hi Gavin can you help show me this visually with a simple doodle please?

Gavin83

FreeBear said:

Gavin83 said: Could you change the orientation of the shower so the entrance is where the screen currently is and vice versa with the shower on the back wall? You might be able to fit the sink on the back wall between the window and shower this way.

It is the back wall that is the problem - This is the one constructed from the clay blocks and may struggle with the loading of the sink.

Am I missing something? I thought it was just the wall between the bathroom and the landing that was constructed from the clay bricks.

I’m referring to the wall that had the sink on it previously which looks external to me.

Gavin83

sho_me_da_money said:

Gavin83 said:

Could you change the orientation of the shower so the entrance is where the screen currently is and vice versa with the shower on the back wall? You might be able to fit the sink on the back wall between the window and shower this way.

It was me that mentioned tanking earlier. Essentially you do it to make things waterproof and the tiled surface nor the hardiebacker are waterproof. 

You need to tank the areas that’ll actually be in contact with water. For a sealed shower it’ll be the shower area itself. For a wetroom you’re meant to tank the whole room as the idea of a wetroom is the whole thing can get wet. If you’ve got a screen and an area you’re confident won’t get wet though you could probably skip some of it, although this is a bit of a bodge.

Hi Gavin can you help show me this visually with a simple doodle please?

You’ll have to excuse my terrible drawing (I did it with my finger on my phone!) but was thinking something like this:

Assuming I’m not misunderstanding some detail of the room here the biggest problem for the above seems to be the radiator. It would definitely need moving, maybe next to the toilet. This is obviously more work.

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Here's a couple of online designs based on what you have said Gavin.  And yes you are right Gavin, the only wall with the clay tiles is the one to the landing.



I hate Quadrants but it does look aesthetically better than the second image.

To your point Gavin, I think that might be an option - basically swap the places of the sink and radiator in the above images. Well there's a couple of options. This is an old image that shows the size and layout of the room before it was stripped down. Maybe this offers some help in identifying the right layout that is aesthetically spacey on the eye.



A while back, I really liked this layout too but figured because of the party wall, I wouldn't be able to do this as the soil is on the external wall. Maybe Im wrong?





Let us know what idea positioning you gents like?

Thanks

Gavin83

Your original layout is near identical to what we’ve done in our en-suite. Our en-suite is a bit bigger but so is the bath. It works though.

Your bottom pic is what I’ve suggested with the toilet and sink switched. I didn’t suggest putting the toilet there as I figured the soil pipe would be a problem. Plus that area is likely to feel a little cramped and it’ll likely feel better for the sink to be a little cramped than the toilet. Plus I think you might end up banging your knee on the radiator when you sit down.

The main problem you’ve got is making the room functional to move around. Your top pic feels like the sink would be in the way when you used the shower door. I also don’t like the aesthetic of having the radiator in that corner, it just looks (and probably would feel) like a bit of a dead zone.