We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Is This Correct???

nursemolly
nursemolly Posts: 1,144 Forumite
Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
Hi,
I have a Worcester Greenstar  boiler which is 30kw, my gas with Scottish Power is 10.1p per kw..so am I correct in thinking my central heating is going to cost  approx £3 an hour !!!
Possibly £15 a day if the heating is on for 5 hours a day.......
Many thanks
NM
«13

Comments

  • MWT
    MWT Posts: 10,715 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Name Dropper
    No, modern boilers modulate the burn to reduce their consumption to what is needed, close to impossible for your boiler to operate at full power all the time as you cannot distribute the heat that fast...
  • nursemolly
    nursemolly Posts: 1,144 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    MWT said:
    No, modern boilers modulate the burn to reduce their consumption to what is needed, close to impossible for your boiler to operate at full power all the time as you cannot distribute the heat that fast...
    Thanks..any idea what the average per hour might be for 3 bed semi....just trying to work out rough averages
  • razord
    razord Posts: 566 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    MWT said:
    No, modern boilers modulate the burn to reduce their consumption to what is needed, close to impossible for your boiler to operate at full power all the time as you cannot distribute the heat that fast...
    Thanks..any idea what the average per hour might be for 3 bed semi....just trying to work out rough averages
    Afraid you'll need to test this yourself. Take a read, turn the heating on for an hour, and take another read.

    You might need to run for more than a single hour to get an actual meaningful value though, unless your meter has decimal places.
  • And it might vary depending on how hard the heating needs to work, so that depends on starting temperature, outdoor temperature, TRV settings etc
  • k_man
    k_man Posts: 1,636 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    MWT said:
    No, modern boilers modulate the burn to reduce their consumption to what is needed, close to impossible for your boiler to operate at full power all the time as you cannot distribute the heat that fast...
    Thanks..any idea what the average per hour might be for 3 bed semi....just trying to work out rough averages
    There are many variables, e.g insulation level, thermostat temperature, how often people come in and out, windows left open etc etc.

    Do you have previous bills or meter readings for last year?
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,895 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    MWT said:
    No, modern boilers modulate the burn to reduce their consumption to what is needed, close to impossible for your boiler to operate at full power all the time as you cannot distribute the heat that fast...
    Thanks..any idea what the average per hour might be for 3 bed semi....just trying to work out rough averages
    Look at your meter readings.  Not the estimates but the actual readings.

    If you get readings that are a year apart, then you can see what your typical annual use is and divide it accordingly.   

    You should not look at a day in isolation.  As that could be a warm day when the boiler never fires up for heating.  And the temperature of water coming in is higher so needs less heating.  You should also not just look at the summer months in isolation.    Hence why you need the whole year.


    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • lohr500
    lohr500 Posts: 1,472 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Impossible to estimate as it depends on too many variables. 

    How long have you lived in the house and do you have actual meter readings for say October to March last year?
    If so, the meter readings will show you how much gas you used during that period last year.

    If you assume similar weather conditions for this coming winter and you use the central heating for the same amount of time, then you can work out the likely consumption for the next six months by taking the October to March readings and applying the 10.1p per kWh cost.
  • It's one of those "how long is a piece of string" questions.

    There are many factors involved, how cold was the house to start with, what temperature you are trying to achieve and over what time.

  • Get a smart meter and download the free App BRIGHT. This is my 30 minute usage for a 24kW boiler last December. Most gas boilers are massively over-sized for domestic homes.


  • MWT
    MWT Posts: 10,715 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Name Dropper
    Dolor said:
    Most gas boilers are massively over-sized for domestic homes.

    Which is where a lot of waste comes in as the minimum level the boiler can modulate down to is usually related to the maximum rating so an over-sized boiler can't run at a low enough level to avoid frequent cycling which is wasteful.
    Longer runs and low flame are greatly preferred to short, frequent bursts.
    It made a very noticeable difference when we changed form an over-sized 28kW boiler to a properly sized 19kW boiler.
    Sadly too many fitters do not do the work to properly size the boiler and just fit what they have or what they can get cheaply at the time.
     

Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 353.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 246.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.1K Life & Family
  • 260.6K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.