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Does anyone else feel guilty about benefiting from these price reductions

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  • rp1974
    rp1974 Posts: 760 Forumite
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    As it's essentially taxpayers money as with all the "free" Government money that's being made available to those who qualify or are deemed needy,or deserving enough and I'm a taxpayer,no I don't feel guilty in the slightest.
    Given that,it's concerning that many people are now just going to carry on regardless since they've been handed £400 to do what they like with.

  • prowla
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    I'm fed up of being the one who successive governments have said "You can pay us a bit more." and "You're not eligible for benefits.", whilst salaries have stagnated.
    In the meanwhile I've been helping my kids through uni and post-uni, whereas the people in the governments who introduced fees went to uni for free.
    So no, I'll take the help this time around, plus the reset to fairer taxes.
  • No.  When I was on DLA and got the £25 cold weather payment, I used to think, "Thank you.  That's my monthly gas and electric paid."

    In all things govermental, some will win and some will lose.  If you win - lap it up, as next time you may not.
  • lisyloo
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    edited 26 September 2022 at 5:32PM
    lisyloo said:
    It’s a really nice thing for you to give it to charity.
    I just think that people like Alan Sugar and many other rich people, simply won’t get round to it.
    A lot of them probably do already give to charity but many just won’t have the time.
    What did Alan Sugar do to you?

    Whatever was done, everyone would have found something to complain about and many people would have said it was unfair.  Just look at the threads on here over the last couple of months.
    Nothing at all.
    Just an example of someone who very clearly doesn’t need the £400.
    rishi sunak, his wife, King Charles, Charlotte church, Andrew Lloyd Webber didn’t do anything to me either, but they don’t need the £400 either.
    im sure many of them do currently give to charity as well.

    I agree someone will be critical whatever is done, doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it though.
  • browolf
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    my £400 reduction has conveniently been negated. I requested a week ago to reduce payments after a change in household occupants means 40% less energy a month is being used. however they ignored my message and today I get an email that the government is paying for a 38% reduction. 😡
  • Vegastare
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    edited 26 September 2022 at 5:55PM
    I certainly do not feel guilty, maybe those who earn more and pay higher taxes - sorry just realized they are getting a 5 % tax cut, they should feel guilty.

    I do however have compassion and I hope understanding for others.  The church up the road from me have a food bank and I give to that. 

    Simply if you feel it bothers your give the amount to charities.  I think it is very much down to the individuals choice.  
  • MalMonroe
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    The people who should feel guilty are those like BoJo who cheated the system during Lockdown and got away with murder and are very very rich and are happy to get even richer now the tax rules have been changed. They should be feeling guilty. Not us, who have virtually paid for our own £400. And it's not even a large amount in the scheme of things. 

    I was reading at the weekend about British children who are, in the 21st century, going to school hungry and remaining hungry all day long because their families are too poor to feed them. That's what I feel guilty about and that's what the government should be doing something about. It breaks my heart to think of the hundreds of children who have to go hungry because their families cannot live on their pitiful incomes. Perhaps if some of our MPs directed their affluence elsewhere we'd all feel much better. 

    So no, not at all, I don't feel guilty. I'm a pensioner and I'm poor and this government is going to ensure that I stay that way.
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  • Serious question for all those who are saying "rich people shouldn't have it but I should" - where are you drawing this nice clear line between good and bad?

    Remember, if it's really high then you're arguing about a tiny number of people so it doesn't really add up to much.  If it's low, then you're claiming that a lot of "the squeezed middle" are actually rich and not deserving of support.
  • Qyburn
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    Not exactly guilty but I am not comfortable with the whole EPG thing which seems likely to set an expectation that government will subsidise energy. Note the question already being asked, what will happen when the EPG ends. Maybe a tapered subsidy would have been better, but as it stands I expect people will be really upset if they suddenly have to pay market prices in two years time.
  • The_Green_Hornet
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    edited 29 December 2022 at 6:45PM
    Serious question for all those who are saying "rich people shouldn't have it but I should" - where are you drawing this nice clear line between good and bad?

    Remember, if it's really high then you're arguing about a tiny number of people so it doesn't really add up to much.  If it's low, then you're claiming that a lot of "the squeezed middle" are actually rich and not deserving of support.
    The usual stance on these things is that anyone who earns more money than they do are classed as rich and they should pay more tax than them.
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