PCN Civil Enforcement

I_love_motorhead

Good evening everybody.
I am helping a stressed out person who has received a pcn throught the post from Civil Enforcement. I have gone through the newbies thread but would like some clarification if you would be so kind. the number of days between the incident date and the issue date is 80+ days, is this grounds for appeal? Also, a lot of spelling mistakes on the address of the car park used. The plan A of appealing to the shop and land owner has produced nothing.

We thank you for any advice.

I love Motorhead!

Umkomaas

the number of days between the incident date and the issue date is 80+ days, is this grounds for appeal?

If that letter is the first one received. Can you post a redacted copy, front and back, but please leave all dates showing. 

Please check (not guess/assume) that the address showing on V5C (logbook) is the current address. Having a previous address showing is often the reason for the late issue of the NtK. 

KeithP

Is the 'stressed out person' the Registered Keeper of the vehicle or is it perhaps a leased/hired car?

Apart from that, the DVLA allows a parking company up to six months to get keeper details from them, and their trade association - the British Parking Association - allows them another month to get a Notice to Keeper to the keeper.

Was there perhaps a Notice to Driver left on the parked car? That affects timescales too.

Where did this parking event take place?

Coupon-mad

The keeper or hirer could easily win this just by copying the APCOA appeal (about a non POFA PCN) that someone posted today. That worked.

No idea which thread but there have only been 2 or 3 APCOA ones with replies today.

I_love_motorhead

KeithP said:

Is the 'stressed out person' the Registered Keeper of the vehicle or is it perhaps a leased/hired car?

Apart from that, the DVLA allows a parking company up to six months to get keeper details from them, and their trade association - the British Parking Association - allows them another month to get a Notice to Keeper to the keeper.

Was there perhaps a Notice to Driver left on the parked car? That affects timescales too.

Where did this parking event take place?

Yes, the stressed out person is the registered keeper. It happened on a retail park, not sure if I should say where. There was nothing on the parked car, first contact was this notice through the post.

Coupon-mad said:

The keeper or hirer could easily win this just by copying the APCOA appeal (about a non POFA PCN) that someone posted today. That worked.

No idea which thread but there have only been 2 or 3 APCOA ones with replies today.

I shall search for the threads, thank you.


.Umkomaas said:

the number of days between the incident date and the issue date is 80+ days, is this grounds for appeal?

If that letter is the first one received. Can you post a redacted copy, front and back, but please leave all dates showing. 

Please check (not guess/assume) that the address showing on V5C (logbook) is the current address. Having a previous address showing is often the reason for the late issue of the NtK. 

It is the first letter received. The spelling mistakes are from the address the car was parked where the incident occurred not the home address. I will post a copy.

I_love_motorhead

Here are the pics

Coupon-mad

Non POFA.

As easy to kill off as the keeper could ever hope for!

I_love_motorhead

So for the appeal, can I just copy the blue template and add that the notice is not POFA compliant?

KeithP

I_love_motorhead said:

So for the appeal, can I just copy the blue template and add that the notice is not POFA compliant?

Yes.                  

I_love_motorhead

Good evening,

I would just like to thank all that replied to my post. Today, the keeper of the car received a letter saying that the penalty had been cancelled. 

Thank you all once again.

Coupon-mad

Easy when you know how! Nicely done.