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Charge Notice- picking up while stopping for pedestrians at Bristol Airport

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  • BTBATOG
    BTBATOG Posts: 77 Forumite
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    edited 10 September 2022 at 6:24PM
    As others have already said...it's neither a 'penalty' or 'fine', and BPA registered PPC's are (or should be!!) fully aware of their responsibilities regarding the COP they signed up to and by which they are expected to abide, advising them against use of either word...so if ANY of your correspondence from either the PPC or their crony collection agents contains either word  then that is merely another string to your bow :wink:

    Apart from where they quote historic cases (Parkingeye v Beavis being the prime example), and the phrase 'was not a penalty in law' is used.

    BPA COP Version 8 January 2020 extract:

    14.2 You must not use terms which imply that parking is
    being managed, controlled and enforced under statutory

    authority. This includes using terms such as ‘fine’, ‘penalty’

    or ‘penalty charge notice’.


  • citizen674907605
    citizen674907605 Posts: 19 Forumite
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    edited 14 September 2022 at 1:40PM
    Ok here are the photos thanks for the tip about them being on the site. theres just 3 pictures and all 3 clearly show there being varios people in front of my car the whole time, my friend or otherwise.

  • Fruitcake
    Fruitcake Posts: 59,463 Forumite
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    edited 14 September 2022 at 8:44PM
    Those photos quite clearly show someone on the crossing at all times thus preventing you from safely and lawfully driving off.

    How are you getting on with your complaints? 

    Have you sent an SAR to see if there are any more images?
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  • DW190
    DW190 Posts: 208 Forumite
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    The time on the middle immage appears to have been tampered with.
  • Fruitcake
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    edited 15 September 2022 at 9:20AM
    I wonder if it could be argued that VCS breached the following Bristol Airport Byelaws.  >:)


    BRISTOL AIRPORT BYELAWS 2012 

    4. ACTS WHICH ARE PROHIBITED ABSOLUTELY No person shall for any reason:-

    4.19 Obstruction or interference
    4.19.1 intentionally obstruct or interfere with the proper use of the Airport or with any person acting in the execution of his duty in relation to the operation of the Airport; or
    4.19.2 intentionally obstruct any other person in the proper use of the Airport.

    5.5 Annoyance to others sing, dance, shout, play a musical instrument, operate Portable Entertainment Equipment, portable public address equipment or behave in such a way as to give reasonable cause for annoyance to any other person. 


    In any case, the following does apply: -

    By virtue of s 66 of the Airports Act 1986, all road traffic laws apply to roads within aerodromes owned or managed by the British Airports Authority, even though the public does not have access to such roads.

    The Secretary of State can direct that any such roads in aerodromes are subject to general traffic laws.

    and: -

    BRISTOL AIRPORT BYELAWS 2012 

    6. PROHIBITED ACTS ON PRIVATE AIRPORT ROADS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE AIRPORT TO WHICH ROAD TRAFFIC ENACTMENTS DO NOT APPLY
    On any private Airport roads or other parts of the Airport to which the Road Traffic Enactments do not apply no person shall:
    6.1 Conduct while driving drive a vehicle:-
    6.1.1 dangerously (by which is meant to drive in such a manner where having regard to the circumstances such driving is likely to cause injury or damage to property);
    6.1.2 without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the Airport;
    6.1.3 whilst drunk or under the influence of drink or drugs or other intoxicating substances; or
    6.1.4 in excess of the speed indicated by a notice displayed on or adjacent to the road in question.
    6.2 Parking in time restricted areas leave or park a vehicle or cause it to wait for a period in excess of the permitted time in an area where the period of waiting is restricted by notice.
    6.3 Parking in prohibited areas wait leave or park a vehicle where waiting or parking is prohibited by notice.
    6.4 Nuisance use, cause or permit to be used, any vehicle in such a way as to cause or to be likely to cause, danger or nuisance to any person.
    6.5 Causing obstructions except in an emergency, when in charge of a vehicle cause or permit the vehicle to stand so as to cause any obstruction, or so as to be likely to cause danger to any Aircraft, person or property.
    6.6 Parking brake cause or permit any vehicle to be left unattended unless the parking brake or restraining device with which the vehicle is fitted is properly engaged.
    6.7 Road Traffic Enactments drive or cause or permit to be driven any vehicle which fails to comply with any braking, steering, lighting, tyre or electrical requirements which apply to that type of vehicle if it were to be operated on a road to which the Road Traffic Enactments apply.
    6.8 Fuel and exhaust systems use, cause or permit to be used any vehicle unless the condition of the fuel and exhaust systems is at all times such that no danger or nuisance is caused or is likely to be caused to any person or property.
    6.9 Observe signs without reasonable excuse on foot or whilst driving or propelling a vehicle neglect, fail or refuse to comply with an indication or direction given by:
    6.9.1 a traffic or pedestrian sign erected and displayed by or with the consent of the Company placed on or near such parts of the Airport;
    6.9.2 any road markings; or
    6.9.3 an Airport Official or Constable for the time being engaged in the regulation of traffic or pedestrians.
    6.10 Safety use, cause or permit a vehicle to be used unless:
    6.10.1 it is in such condition; the number of passengers carried by it; the manner in which any passengers are carried in it; the weight, distribution, packing and adjustment of the load of the vehicle are such that no danger is caused or is likely to be caused to any person in or on the vehicle or on the Airport, and
    6.10.2 any load carried by the vehicle is at all times secured so that neither danger nor nuisance is caused or is likely to be caused to any person or property by reason of the load or any part thereof falling or being blown from the vehicle.
    6.11 Driving in designated areas without permission of the Company drive or park or wait in or leave any vehicle otherwise than in areas designated by the Company.
    6.12 Driving in Aircraft manoeuvring areas except in an emergency, cause or permit vehicles, or Aircraft servicing equipment or persons to enter those parts of the Airport designated for the surface movement of Aircraft including the manoeuvring area, aprons and any part of the Airport provided for the maintenance of Aircraft except those parts specifically designated by the Company for use by vehicles, Aircraft servicing equipment or persons.
    6.13 Stopping when requested to do so fail to stop when required by a Constable or an Airport Official so to do.
    6.14 Following directions and regulations fail to comply with any direction for the regulation of traffic given by a Constable, any Airport Official or any notice.
    6.15 Parking in designated areas only park a vehicle other than in a place designated for that purpose.
    6.16 Request for removal of vehicle when in charge of a vehicle, fail to remove it from any parking place when required to do so by a Constable or an Airport Official.
    6.17 Leaving vehicles unattended
    6.17.1 leave any vehicle unattended when its engine is running; or
    6.17.2 leave any vehicle without removing the ignition key from the vehicle.
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    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
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  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,478 Forumite
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    You didnt stop to pick up, you stopped on a zebra crossing and an individual then got into your car
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • In case it is still useful - VCS have been judged to have breached the Data Protection Act for requesting my details from the DVLA when the photo shows me at a pedestrian crossing at Bristol Airport too. 

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79872507#Comment_79872507
  •  I know it's been awhile, but I'd just like to say thank you to everyone who helped on this thread, at the time I wasn't Clued up, didn't know what could happen, in the end, they ceased to contact me and gave up. Scamming cowards!

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