Powerful toilet

Gavin83

FreeBear said:

Make & model of the toilet/cistern ?

Got a close coupled toilet here, and the flush is less than ideal - Often have floaters left behind and would much prefer something with a better flush. Kinda miss the old high level cisterns and keep thinking about replacing it.

Does your soil pipe have enough of a fall on it?

OP, are you flushing the toilet while you’re still sat on it? Standing up first might be an easy solution. 

Technically speaking you’re meant to shut the lid before you flush as well (which would definitely hide the issue) but most probably don’t bother. 

The proper solution would be to lower the cistern. If that’s too much hassle I’d follow Bendy_House advice and fit some sort of restricter to limit the flow.

FreeBear

Gavin83 said:

FreeBear said:

Make & model of the toilet/cistern ?

Got a close coupled toilet here, and the flush is less than ideal - Often have floaters left behind and would much prefer something with a better flush. Kinda miss the old high level cisterns and keep thinking about replacing it.

Does your soil pipe have enough of a fall on it?

The pipe goes through an external wall straight in to the soil stack. a good 3m drop down to the underground drainage. So yes, plenty of fall. The issue for me is the quality of a flush, so contemplating going back to a high level cistern when I get to renovating the bathroom.

twopenny

I lived decades with a high level cistern and never had problems and it only needed cleaning once in a blue moon.
Now with 2low level it's always something.

Mistral001

I thought that was normal when you sit down while flushing.  Try standing up before flushing!

TELLIT01

FreeBear said:

Gavin83 said:

FreeBear said:

Make & model of the toilet/cistern ?

Got a close coupled toilet here, and the flush is less than ideal - Often have floaters left behind and would much prefer something with a better flush. Kinda miss the old high level cisterns and keep thinking about replacing it.

Does your soil pipe have enough of a fall on it?

The pipe goes through an external wall straight in to the soil stack. a good 3m drop down to the underground drainage. So yes, plenty of fall. The issue for me is the quality of a flush, so contemplating going back to a high level cistern when I get to renovating the bathroom.

If the pipe from the toilet goes straight through the wall into the soil stack it makes me even more concerned that there is an obstruction of some kind in the pipe between the toilet an the soil pipe.

FreeBear

TELLIT01 said:

FreeBear said:

Gavin83 said:

FreeBear said:

Make & model of the toilet/cistern ?

Got a close coupled toilet here, and the flush is less than ideal - Often have floaters left behind and would much prefer something with a better flush. Kinda miss the old high level cisterns and keep thinking about replacing it.

Does your soil pipe have enough of a fall on it?

The pipe goes through an external wall straight in to the soil stack. a good 3m drop down to the underground drainage. So yes, plenty of fall. The issue for me is the quality of a flush, so contemplating going back to a high level cistern when I get to renovating the bathroom.

If the pipe from the toilet goes straight through the wall into the soil stack it makes me even more concerned that there is an obstruction of some kind in the pipe between the toilet an the soil pipe.

Nope. I've had the pan out and stuck my hand in (with marigold gloves on) to check. Also checked the stack when I replaced the top half a couple of years back. Satisfied that there is no obstruction.

Gavin83

FreeBear said:

Gavin83 said:

FreeBear said:

Make & model of the toilet/cistern ?

Got a close coupled toilet here, and the flush is less than ideal - Often have floaters left behind and would much prefer something with a better flush. Kinda miss the old high level cisterns and keep thinking about replacing it.

Does your soil pipe have enough of a fall on it?

The pipe goes through an external wall straight in to the soil stack. a good 3m drop down to the underground drainage. So yes, plenty of fall. The issue for me is the quality of a flush, so contemplating going back to a high level cistern when I get to renovating the bathroom.

What about the pipe that goes through the wall?

We had similar issues with the terrible flush. Turned out our soil pipe essentially went uphill the 3 feet or so until it met the soil stack. Fixed that and the problem went away.

We've got low level cisterns and haven't had any issues with the flush capabilities.

FreeBear

Gavin83 said:

FreeBear said:

Gavin83 said:

FreeBear said:

Make & model of the toilet/cistern ?

Got a close coupled toilet here, and the flush is less than ideal - Often have floaters left behind and would much prefer something with a better flush. Kinda miss the old high level cisterns and keep thinking about replacing it.

Does your soil pipe have enough of a fall on it?

The pipe goes through an external wall straight in to the soil stack. a good 3m drop down to the underground drainage. So yes, plenty of fall. The issue for me is the quality of a flush, so contemplating going back to a high level cistern when I get to renovating the bathroom.

What about the pipe that goes through the wall?

We had similar issues with the terrible flush. Turned out our soil pipe essentially went uphill the 3 feet or so until it met the soil stack. Fixed that and the problem went away.

We've got low level cisterns and haven't had any issues with the flush capabilities.

300-400mm of pipe going through the wall, and it has a slope downwards toward the soil stack.

It is not an issue causing me to loose sleep over, so it can wait until the bathroom is refurbished.

plumb1_2

It will be the design of the pan,
I acquired a item over 40 years ago to deal with the odd floater. Works a treat never let me down.