Edf!!!!

QrizB

Your previous thread in July was also about EDF:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6371916/edf-think-they-trying-to-rip-people-off/p1

At that time they were asking £324.

You were given good advice then, including that you should consider a switch to GEUK. That ship has sailed and it seems you're now stuck with EDF.

MattMattMattUK

Joeuk48 said:

Oh well looks like I’ll be cut off nevermind thanks for understanding 

Why would you be cut off? The first part would be an accumulation of debt, it would take months, probably years and a court case to be cut off. You appear to be a relatively high user, so some entirely reasonable cutbacks should be able to bring your monthly Direct Debits down again to below the original £310.

Janie2008

I didn't think EDF had any fixed rates. My account says they can't offer any at the moment. Did you take this a while ago? If you can't afford it ring them up and talk to them.

Joeuk48

They have one at the moment I’d check again 

GingerTim

They are only showing the standard variable tariff and nothing else on my account.

macman

Joeuk48 said:

Oh well looks like I’ll be cut off nevermind thanks for understanding 

You won't be 'cut off'. If you get into debt you might eventually get a PPM fitted, but that's a long way down the road.
The govt subsidy of £400 per account will more than cover the extra £288 which you wrongly think you are being overcharged, plus the £150 C tax rebate on bands A to D.
Did you seriously think that the DD amount allowed you to use an infinite amount of energy for a fixed monthly sum?

Robgmun

QrizB said:

Your previous thread in July was also about EDF:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6371916/edf-think-they-trying-to-rip-people-off/p1

At that time they were asking £324.

You were given good advice then, including that you should consider a switch to GEUK. That ship has sailed and it seems you're now stuck with EDF.

Although the original OP's attitude sucks, (in that we're trying to help him but doesn't even answer basic questions)

I do think EDF are a bunch of scam merchants and need to be watched like a hawk so that they don't rip you off. The time of taking fixed rates was long gone, and it now looks like they're not fixed anyway, lol, what a bunch of scam artists. 

I'm paying £210 at the moment with about £300 in debt, i've managed to reduce my usage to about £90 for the month of Sept, (if we keep to 8kwh per day) which was rise to about 170 post Oct, with the £400 handout, that's £67 off per month so it stays at £100 per month. So by the next bill comes in Feb i hope to be £300 in credit. Yes of course it wont be enough to cover the bill entirely but if we continue down this road by the end of 2023 we'll be in credit enough to cover the whole bill as they comes in

[Deleted User]

Robgmun said:

QrizB said:

Your previous thread in July was also about EDF:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6371916/edf-think-they-trying-to-rip-people-off/p1

At that time they were asking £324.

You were given good advice then, including that you should consider a switch to GEUK. That ship has sailed and it seems you're now stuck with EDF.

Although the original OP's attitude sucks, (in that we're trying to help him but doesn't even answer basic questions)

I do think EDF are a bunch of scam merchants and need to be watched like a hawk so that they don't rip you off. The time of taking fixed rates was long gone, and it now looks like they're not fixed anyway, lol, what a bunch of scam artists. 

I'm paying £210 at the moment with about £300 in debt, i've managed to reduce my usage to about £90 for the month of Sept, (if we keep to 8kwh per day) which was rise to about 170 post Oct, with the £400 handout, that's £67 off per month so it stays at £100 per month. So by the next bill comes in Feb i hope to be £300 in credit. Yes of course it wont be enough to cover the bill entirely but if we continue down this road by the end of 2023 we'll be in credit enough to cover the whole bill as they comes in

What's made you decide that fixed rates are "not fixed anyway, lol"?

Has your unit price actually changed during a fixed rate deal (and you would of course have good evidence to prove it) or are you just making things up?

Robgmun

[Deleted User] said:

Robgmun said:

QrizB said:

Your previous thread in July was also about EDF:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6371916/edf-think-they-trying-to-rip-people-off/p1

At that time they were asking £324.

You were given good advice then, including that you should consider a switch to GEUK. That ship has sailed and it seems you're now stuck with EDF.

Although the original OP's attitude sucks, (in that we're trying to help him but doesn't even answer basic questions)

I do think EDF are a bunch of scam merchants and need to be watched like a hawk so that they don't rip you off. The time of taking fixed rates was long gone, and it now looks like they're not fixed anyway, lol, what a bunch of scam artists. 

I'm paying £210 at the moment with about £300 in debt, i've managed to reduce my usage to about £90 for the month of Sept, (if we keep to 8kwh per day) which was rise to about 170 post Oct, with the £400 handout, that's £67 off per month so it stays at £100 per month. So by the next bill comes in Feb i hope to be £300 in credit. Yes of course it wont be enough to cover the bill entirely but if we continue down this road by the end of 2023 we'll be in credit enough to cover the whole bill as they comes in

What's made you decide that fixed rates are "not fixed anyway, lol"?

Has your unit price actually changed during a fixed rate deal (and you would of course have good evidence to prove it) or are you just making things up?

Well, if he said he fixed his prices but he now says they want to rise it, and someone else said it's not a "all-you-eat buffet" then by that very definition it isn't fixed. How is that any better than being on DD? Sure the tariffs are fixed but if the OP is an idiot and not willing to hear advice on how to cut down on usage then it's people like him who suffer with pre-payment meters and be forever paying through the nose.

GingerTim

Robgmun said:

Deleted_User said:

Robgmun said:

QrizB said:

Your previous thread in July was also about EDF:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6371916/edf-think-they-trying-to-rip-people-off/p1

At that time they were asking £324.

You were given good advice then, including that you should consider a switch to GEUK. That ship has sailed and it seems you're now stuck with EDF.

Although the original OP's attitude sucks, (in that we're trying to help him but doesn't even answer basic questions)

I do think EDF are a bunch of scam merchants and need to be watched like a hawk so that they don't rip you off. The time of taking fixed rates was long gone, and it now looks like they're not fixed anyway, lol, what a bunch of scam artists. 

I'm paying £210 at the moment with about £300 in debt, i've managed to reduce my usage to about £90 for the month of Sept, (if we keep to 8kwh per day) which was rise to about 170 post Oct, with the £400 handout, that's £67 off per month so it stays at £100 per month. So by the next bill comes in Feb i hope to be £300 in credit. Yes of course it wont be enough to cover the bill entirely but if we continue down this road by the end of 2023 we'll be in credit enough to cover the whole bill as they comes in

What's made you decide that fixed rates are "not fixed anyway, lol"?

Has your unit price actually changed during a fixed rate deal (and you would of course have good evidence to prove it) or are you just making things up?

Well, if he said he fixed his prices but he now says they want to rise it, and someone else said it's not a "all-you-eat buffet" then by that very definition it isn't fixed. How is that any better than being on DD? Sure the tariffs are fixed but if the OP is an idiot and not willing to hear advice on how to cut down on usage then it's people like him who suffer with pre-payment meters and be forever paying through the nose.

The OP's problem is that he appears to have misunderstood. Fixed tariffs fix the unit rates and standing charges for a period, not the direct debit amount. If he uses more energy than was estimated than when he took out the tariff, then the direct debit will increase.