Isolation switch / spur - redoing my kitchen

Bucki

Hello all

Hoping to get advise from qualified electricians. 

I am redoing my kitchen on a 16yrs old property. Don't like the way the sockets and isolation spurs are scattered around - so want to reorganise.

I will have:

Dish washer
Washing machiner
Fridge/freezer

Build in microwave

Build in oven

Hob
Extractor fan

Now, my idea is to somehow have a 6 gang switch on one side where I can switch on/off all the appliances as above.

I understand that the oven requires a 45A FUSE and needs to be separate and has to be near the oven? But oven is build in cabinet higher up the floor.

What is that gang switch I need and where can I find one please, any links would be great.

Does every alliance need a seperate isolator ?? At moment, there is a seperate isolate (with fuse) for oven, for extractor fan, for fridge. (There was gas oven in place and didn't see isolator for hob).


Please advise,


Manu thanks

Risteard

Much of what you have stated as fact is not actually correct.

As for whether isolators are required for each appliance (and where they must be located), firstly we would need to know where the property is.

grumbler

Bucki said:

I understand that the oven requires a 45A FUSE and needs to be separate and has to be near the oven? But oven is build in cabinet higher up the floor.

Many, if not most, ovens come with 13A plugs or require 13A fuse.

If you don't have an electric cooker plate and switch, you'll need a new high-rated circuit for it.

What is that gang switch I need and where can I find one please, any links would be great.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/grid-modular-wiring/cat830532

You can find grid switches marked with a type of appliance they control.

Bucki

Risteard said:

Much of what you have stated as fact is not actually correct.

As for whether isolators are required for each appliance (and where they must be located), firstly we would need to know where the property is.

It is in UK, terrance end side, town house.

Currently, the old kitchen has a gas oven and there was no electrical job in place. Just above bit to side, of the gas oven, it has a switch for the oven. 

Then it has an isolator for the Extractor fan, and the fridge freezer. Whereas dish washer and washing machine seem to be daisy-chain and has no isolator.


In short, I like to make it more neat and have like eg. 6 switch grid : to switch on / off the dish washer , washing machine, the microwave, the extractor fan, the fridge and the hob and oven if possible.

Now, I am not sure what regulations are for Oven and other appliances? Which one must have an isolator on its own?

When I say isolator and I may mix up the words but it is a on off button which a fuze next to it.

Instead having a lot of those fuze boxes which look silly and use lot of space, my idea is to have that 6 switch grid and have a simple on/off for each of them - if u need to isolate them.

Now why some of them have a fuze , not sure but yeh. 


Now what do I need to look out for?  

Bucki

grumbler said:

Bucki said:

I understand that the oven requires a 45A FUSE and needs to be separate and has to be near the oven? But oven is build in cabinet higher up the floor.

Many, if not most, ovens come with 13A plugs or require 13A fuse.

If you don't have an electric cooker plate and switch, you'll need a new high-rated circuit for it.

What is that gang switch I need and where can I find one please, any links would be great.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/grid-modular-wiring/cat830532

You can find grid switches marked with a type of appliance they control.

Old kitchen had gas oven and now my new kitchen is build in oven (on a different cabinet) and then the Electrical Hob will be in same location where the old gas cooker was.

There is a socket (on off) thick cable for the oven. From what I understand there is no on/off for the hob. 

Can the link u provided does not show anything really not working for me. So, may I then have a 6 switch gang modular grid and have on / off for them each appliance.

Cheers

Section62

Bucki said:

When I say isolator and I may mix up the words but it is a on off button which a fuze next to it.

Instead having a lot of those fuze boxes which look silly and use lot of space, my idea is to have that 6 switch grid and have a simple on/off for each of them - if u need to isolate them.

Now why some of them have a fuze , not sure but yeh. 


Now what do I need to look out for?  

A qualified electrician.

If you aren't aware of the requirements for fusing of appliances then this isn't a DIY job you should take on yourself.

grumbler

DW, WM, FF, MW  come with a fused plug. For them it's better to have a normal socket. The same for the oven if it has a plug.

If a socket isn't easily accessible it's worth having an accessible switch (not sure whether this is a requirement). 

For the fan you can have either a socket or a fused switch or a fused box with a remote accessible switch.

If really there is a switch for a cooker/hob, then there has to be a cooker plate somewhere for hard-wiring your hob. Something like this:

Regarding the link that does work, there are various parts there for assembling grid switches. I've never dealt with 6 and, personally would do 3+3 instead. Also, at SF I see only faceplates for 6.

Personally, I'd go for 3+3 or 4+2, but if you want 6 check other places. I am not even sure that not surface-mounted backboxes exist for 6. For 3 you need a normal double backbox plus e.g.

Lomast

You are going to end up with a lot of unnecessary wiring but it should be possible to do most of what you want, your electrician should be able to advise you best as they can see the layout and the existing installation 

GDB2222

Umm, won’t it be rather too easy to hit the wrong switch by mistake? Switching the fridge off by mistake could be a disaster.

grumbler

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