Motoring offence on motorway

dil1976

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dil1976 said:

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400ixl said:

Motorways, including Smart Motorways are statistically the safest roads in the country. If you can't be observant enough to use a motorway in the right way (as per the highway code) then don't drive on one.

Petty to some is dealing with ignorant road users to them.

This is just daft. The design is unsafe. You would have to be driving dangerously slow to mitigate the danger in all conditions, which is itself an offense.

The government has admitted that smart motorways are unsafe, and begun retrofitting radar that only somewhat improves the situation.

I am not saying they cant be safer, but a lot of road safety is down to the drivers themselves not the actual roads. Plenty of dual carriageways without a hard shoulder that are very busy yet they are not deemed to be unsafe? 

Because they are laid out with enough visibility. If there isn't visibility they have a lower speed limit applied.

Motorways were never designed for this, and don't have permanent speed limits under 70.

In fact some motorways have signs indicating less than the NSL on them too, the A38m and is it the M56 into North Wales is 60 I believe so you got any more nonsense to spout about motorways?

user1977

dil1976 said:

[Deleted User] said:

dil1976 said:

[Deleted User] said:

400ixl said:

Motorways, including Smart Motorways are statistically the safest roads in the country. If you can't be observant enough to use a motorway in the right way (as per the highway code) then don't drive on one.

Petty to some is dealing with ignorant road users to them.

This is just daft. The design is unsafe. You would have to be driving dangerously slow to mitigate the danger in all conditions, which is itself an offense.

The government has admitted that smart motorways are unsafe, and begun retrofitting radar that only somewhat improves the situation.

I am not saying they cant be safer, but a lot of road safety is down to the drivers themselves not the actual roads. Plenty of dual carriageways without a hard shoulder that are very busy yet they are not deemed to be unsafe? 

Because they are laid out with enough visibility. If there isn't visibility they have a lower speed limit applied.

Motorways were never designed for this, and don't have permanent speed limits under 70.

In fact some motorways have signs indicating less than the NSL on them too, the A38m and is it the M56 into North Wales is 60 I believe

Also bits of the M5, M8, M74 and M77, and I expect plenty of others.

400ixl

MX5huggy said:

Your adding your own qualification to “congested traffic” being very heavy with queuing lanes. The congested traffic does not need to be queuing for undertaking to be considered acceptable. 

To make a contextual point against the poster who was implying that you could undertake on a free flowing motorway which you can't. 

MarvinDay

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Because they are laid out with enough visibility. If there isn't visibility they have a lower speed limit applied.

Motorways were never designed for this, and don't have permanent speed limits under 70.

Like parts of the M3 you mean:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2018/259/pdfs/uksiem_20180259_en.pdf

These Regulations extend the existing 50mph and variable speed limits on the westbound carriageway of the M3 in the vicinity of junction 2 and change the reference point for the start of the 50mph speed limit on the slip road from the anticlockwise carriageway of the M25 at junction 12 to the westbound carriageway of the M3.