Pay regarding secondment gone perm

AliceBanned

I agree with others on here Dakta. It sounds like a good move and your current employer doesn’t deserve you!

since you responded to my post on my situation at work, other (clearly unfair) things have happened but now I am starting to plan to move on and feel it’s right. I agree it can be hard to leave for a new employer but that just enables a bad employer to get away with things. I’m garnering my strength and you have inspired me. Good luck with the move and enjoy!

theoretica

Dakta said:

It has taken me now nearly a year to get a conversation on my salary from management, by comparison once confident enough it only took a few days to best it by over 10k...

So by being hard to pin down your employer has saved 10k (or more with NI etc) - do this across several people in the workforce and they may have calculated it pays off, even after recruitment costs.

Dakta

Thanks for the bump.

There has been progress however I have been reluctant to post because I've had concerns posts may be spotted. If I seem vague on detail please bear with me.

I finally had the meeting last week, the long and short of it is what you'd expect no raise due the reason given my level of experience though no direct feedback with regards to my actual work howevee they would welcome me to try and come up with ways to develop myself  before the next one next year and the manager said they'd help me find ways to do that . This bombshell was dropped ten minutes before a work social event. I did make my position clear and I don't think they expected the amount t if info and analysis I'd done but ultimately it dies t change anything much. I ended up leaving the event early as it was too much to process.

I spoke with a mentor who has to take a neutral position but admitted (on the caveat that I had to do was right for me) that's theyd likely do what I was doing in the same situation 

As a result I've accepted the other job offer. Notice hasn't gone in as I don't want to do anything until the offers unconditional but background checks now in progress..it's fair to say I'm bricking it, success has never felt this negative my conditions and pay will be better than what I aimed for bit I still feel it's all wrong.

The meeting did seem to have brought about some changes, whilst unsaid it seems to have been noted that I do more than my fair share as I've been given more help this week and even though the meeting was heated they are being friendlier than ever - I just don't think my direct lm has power to sort it but I think he's probably thinking I'd do same if in the same position.

Had a good day today as we e had some work on that I  had to take the lead on despite being told I needed more experience with respect to the team. I think if they had more situational awareness they'd kick themselves because this is the norm not the exception. But I can't fight all battles 

Business can be a bit stupid at times

cymruchris

I think you're doing the right thing. I was in a similar circumstance a few years ago - had taken on extra responsibility when a manager left with no salary increase. Felt in a bit of a rut. Happened to apply for another job externally, and was offered it. Submitted my notice - then got called to an informal chat in the 'car park' with a senior manager who didn't want me to leave, and offered a considerable salary increase on the spot. I decided to stay, still felt in a rut, wished I'd taken the other job, but luckily the company got itself a new owner, and redundancies were offered, so I took it without a second thought. 

If they've treated you the way they have until now - even if you get a bit of a pay rise - you'll probably continue to be treated the same way. Yes things might be challenging ahead - but you've evidently achieved something to get where you are. You can continue to achieve these things and more in a new role, in a new company. 

In the company I was in, many, many, many people that had been long-term employees found that there was 'Life outside of company XXX' - I'm sure that once in, settled and working, you'll be just fine.