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Using portable wood burning stove in house this winter?

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  • theoretica
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    Anyone with a wood burning stove would be wise (required?) to have a carbon monoxide detector - one of the noisy alarm ones, not the little round paper things where you may or may not notice a dark dot (if they are even still available). 
    Stoves for indoor use are supposed to be sealed to stop them filling the room with smoke - would a stove for outdoors be?  They are also designed to work with a certain flue length and diameter - again, the outdoors ones I have come across have very different flue design.
    Flue design isn't just a matter of piping smoke to outside - you need draw and all that sort of thing so limiting the amount of sideways direction for a given height.
    Also to install a stove you need building control sign off...  I would also be on the side of enjoy your outdoors stove outdoors, and if you want one indoors do it conventionally...

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  • QrizB
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    Anyone with a wood burning stove would be wise (required?) to have a carbon monoxide detector - one of the noisy alarm ones, not the little round paper things where you may or may not notice a dark dot (if they are even still available). 
    My parents had a black dot one in their caravan. I explained it would help the investigators understand why they died but was otherwise useless, and bought them a noisy battery-operated one.
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  • nottsphil
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    edited 29 August 2022 at 8:46AM
    People have died in tents through carbon monoxide poisoning from appliances placed even outside the tent:
    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9708009.campers-issued-with-killer-barbecue-fumes-alert/



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    Yep - it’s a risk that campers are extremely aware of. 
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    jcontest said:
    Our neighbours had one installed a few months ago (they are using it, now, now???, it's not cold) and they are buying wood from Amazon (Not the forest!), ugh...
    ouch! I happened to spot kiln dried logs on Amazon and the cost was something like 25p/kWh so at 80% efficiency that's more than 30p/kWh output. I'm so glad we have free wood for a few years courtesy of ash dieback.
  • ariarnia
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    jcontest said:
    daveyjp said:
    There are small woodburning stoves to be used in tents whuch have a chimney designed to fit through a hole in the tent roof so its not an unfeasible idea.

    However, a tent in itself is inherently 'leaky' so using such a stove in a sealed room is probably not a good idea.

    Your last statement is really what needs to be taken to heart here.. This is why CO deaths really didn't happen when I grew up, the homes were exchanging air so fast that it was hard to build up anything bad.  What the op is asking has too much risk and should't be done.  Seeing how many of these stoves can be purchased and installed without planning application then I think a few people will end up killing themselves this Winter. 
    Our neighbours had one installed a few months ago (they are using it, now, now???, it's not cold) and they are buying wood from Amazon (Not the forest!), ugh...
    when we had ours installed we ordered some fuel from amazon. it was a quick and easy way to get a small volume of a lot of different things like different brands of heat logs and smallish bags of smokeless fuel to see how they compared or combined with logs from the local guy so we could then order a pallet full of what worked for us... 
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  • uk1
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    I once bought some wood from Amazon and thought it “not right” and weighed it.  It was all badly underweight.  I complained and was told by the company that the weight was only “a guide” and not guaranteed and they wouldn’t budge.  I appealed to Amazon and they said the trader ws talking rubbish and refunded all the payment.  Caveat emptor. 
  • ariarnia
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    uk1 said:
    I once bought some wood from Amazon and thought it “not right” and weighed it.  It was all badly underweight.  I complained and was told by the company that the weight was only “a guide” and not guaranteed and they wouldn’t budge.  I appealed to Amazon and they said the trader ws talking rubbish and refunded all the payment.  Caveat emptor. 
    trouble is weight can be upped by shipping wood with higher moisture content. ive seen more than 25% sold as 'kiln dry' which is ridiculous. obviously just left for a couple of years and sold as kiln or stored very badly (and was from a local supplier not online).

    i agree with the people saying buying regularly small amounts of wood from an online marketplace like amazon will not save money on heating the home but at the same time if the person has and mostly uses GSH but wants enough logs for an evening or two in the winter or wants to try out a new product without first buying a ton of it then it can be a sensible option. 
    Almost everything will work again if you unplug it for a few minutes, including you. Anne Lamott

    It's amazing how those with a can-do attitude and willingness to 'pitch in and work' get all the luck, isn't it?

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  • Its probably already been said but Nooooo, 
    NOX/CO2 poisoning just don't do it. You might hear the alarm but not have the oxygen to move and die silently.
    Chimneys are designed to draw fumes up and away windows are not.
  • dunstonh
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    Even done properly, It is worth looking into the way wood burning stoves contribute more to pollution, than cars do - and see if you feel comfortable with this
    They don't.  The original report that led to that statement was based on flawed assumptions and has since been retracted.  However, being the internet, it continues to do the rounds on certain sites and is quoted as gospel.


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