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Sainsbury 1 Year Smooth Renew v21 any good?

tsar76
tsar76 Posts: 22 Forumite
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I'm confused if this is worth moving to when my fix finishes in a few weeks. I've tried using Martin's calculators but I'm still unsure if this will end up cheaper with the additional price increases over the next 12 months

1 Year Smooth Renew v21
Electric
Unit rate66.87555p per kWh
Standing charge44.75p per day

Gas
Unit rate16.7664p per kWh
Standing charge27.22p per day

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  • Astria
    Astria Posts: 1,448 Forumite
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    It'll be more expensive October - December, but might be cheaper in January or April next year.
    How much gas and electric do you typically use between October - December?
    Calculate the amount with the new cap published today and your above figures and work out how much it's going to cost you to gamble better rates for next year.

  • Might be, might not.

    How much do you value price certainty and how is your trust in the predictions for next year's prices?

    Look at how much you use in each month, and what price you guess you would be paying in each month.  We can't tell you what to do.
  • Same boat here. I signed up to Smooth Renew v21 (oh the cruel irony in that name) and am weighing up whether to exercise my right to change my mind within 14 days. I think essentially it will cost me an extra £50 per month from Oct - Dec compared to the price cap. If there's another steep rise in Jan and Feb it'll probably be a cost effective fix, but if there's some dramatic political intervention such as the cap being frozen then it'll be wasted money. 

  • Personally, I think the chance of steep cap rise in Jan (and Apr) is high and that the chance of a frozen cap or a large amount of extra help is low.

    That's a personal opinion though and I would encourage everyone to make their own judgement.
  • You might be right. My 14 day cooling off period will still apply when the new PM takes office so I think I'll wait to see what's announced next week. 
  • tux900
    tux900 Posts: 412 Forumite
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    Check the exit fee as there wasn't one for v20 so you're not just limited to the 14 day cooling off period in practice. 
  • Yawn
    Yawn Posts: 164 Forumite
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    My rough math from when I renewed with Sainsbury's is that their latest fix basically mirrors that of Eon Next (which they are part of) and Martin Lewis still recommends the Eon deals. Maybe Sainsbury is a bit niche, but it would be nice if they could be added to the analysis page. 
  • barker77
    barker77 Posts: 326 Forumite
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    Eon used to allow you to move to standard tariffs even from fixed deals that had exit fees - not sure if sainsburys is the same? 
  • Thanks. There is no exit fee. One other advantage of sainsburys is that as a subsidiary of a huge supermarket they're hopefully unlikely to go bust. Or is that naive these days?! 
  • Astria
    Astria Posts: 1,448 Forumite
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    edited 30 August 2022 at 9:47AM
    Thanks. There is no exit fee. One other advantage of sainsburys is that as a subsidiary of a huge supermarket they're hopefully unlikely to go bust. Or is that naive these days?! 
    Sainsbury's Energy is actually EON, just white labelled. You can (or could a few weeks ago) even sign into EON's portal with your Sainsbury's account data as it's the exact same system with just slight changes for branding.

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