Ofgem blanket ban on energy companies taking on new properties

MattMattMattUK

pochase said:

MattMattMattUK said:

GunJack said:

QrizB said:

SMcGill said:

I contacted EonNext to ask about carrying my existing tariff over to my next home and they said this is possible, as long as it’s a like for like arrangement i.e. no switch from DD to prepayment and depending on how much longer my tariff has to run. Is that not standard practice then?

No, definitely not standard. Relatively few suppliers permit it.

How does this get around the deemed supplier in the new property issue? or will it only work if the same supplier currently supplies both properties?

You sign up with the existing supplier in the new property as required, then after the waiting period when you initiate the transfer to the supplier from the previous property.  

Do you have any information regarding the waiting period? 

Is the 21 days you have to wait between switching to the next supplier after a switch also true for a going deemed tariff? Was discussed in another thread and nobody had any real written information.

Not specifically no, I know it applies, but I don't know the specifics, I am guessing it is something to do with the registration process for the supplier on the meter database, but that is just a guess. I know friends had the situation where they had to wait, although I had it in my head that they had to wait 28 days from signing up with the deemed supplier, not 21, but I have never experienced it myself and do not know the relevant regulations. 

pochase

That would make sense for a switch, the database needs to be updated. But for somebody starting the deemed tariff what is changed in the database? The supplier stays the same.

I also thought it applies, most likely because I have read it many times, with nobody questioning it. But me searching did not bring up any information.

Edit
Just found the following information

You can only switch supplier or tariff from the day you become responsible for the property. Switching won’t happen straight away so you’ll have to pay at least one bill with the current supplier. 

here

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/energy/energy-supply/moving-home-your-energy-supply/moving-home-dealing-with-your-energy-supply/

Ok they also don't give any indication why they believe this.

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MattMattMattUK said:

pochase said:

MattMattMattUK said:

GunJack said:

QrizB said:

SMcGill said:

I contacted EonNext to ask about carrying my existing tariff over to my next home and they said this is possible, as long as it’s a like for like arrangement i.e. no switch from DD to prepayment and depending on how much longer my tariff has to run. Is that not standard practice then?

No, definitely not standard. Relatively few suppliers permit it.

How does this get around the deemed supplier in the new property issue? or will it only work if the same supplier currently supplies both properties?

You sign up with the existing supplier in the new property as required, then after the waiting period when you initiate the transfer to the supplier from the previous property.  

Do you have any information regarding the waiting period? 

Is the 21 days you have to wait between switching to the next supplier after a switch also true for a going deemed tariff? Was discussed in another thread and nobody had any real written information.

Not specifically no, I know it applies, but I don't know the specifics, I am guessing it is something to do with the registration process for the supplier on the meter database, but that is just a guess. I know friends had the situation where they had to wait, although I had it in my head that they had to wait 28 days from signing up with the deemed supplier, not 21, but I have never experienced it myself and do not know the relevant regulations. 

Changes of tariff with an existing supplier are normally treated as ‘mutual variations of contract’ under SLCs. Unless a changeover date has been agreed, the supplier has 5 working days to make the change. Most suppliers, like Octopus, implement the change at midnight on the day that the change was agreed.