Oct price cap increase likely to push energy bill to over £10k... for a family of 4...

pochase

And if it has 20 what stops you take a few out? It would be overkill anyway.

Vincero

I have to say, I have no love at all for the spotlight halogen lights that the 90s seem to have eschewed upon interior design.
I thought they were crap in bars and pubs that lit up only small sections of the bar, and was even more perplexed when people started getting dozens of them in their kitchens and living rooms, etc., due to the sheer ineffectiveness of what they do for the power they use.

Thank God that by the time I came to own a house I was able to substitute the 12x 50W halogens for LEDs that use less than a tenth of the power. That's 600W of some scumbag interior decorating decision before LED lights could be used.
If I ever get around to a full redecoration/refit that is high on the list to change.

michaels

Sorry to keep hijacking your thread MariaH

Did some quick readings using the smart meter display rather than the energy meter socket just to get some rule of thumb numbers:
All pricing based on 52p per unit or 1 w 24/7 for a year = £4.55

Main room TV (65): 130w, DW tends to watch a lot in the day then we all watch a bit in the evening - say 8 hours per day = £195
DS TV (40): 170w, say 3 hours per day = £96
DD2 TV (watches youtube etc through PC so that included too): 300-500w!!! 4 hours per day? = £265

Some quick wins there such as getting DD2 a laptop (£50 of facebook market place/ebay) that will run 50w rather than the 250-450 the PC runs, and suggesting DW watches TV on the smaller TV in the lounge.

WE also seem to have a 200w background overnight, no  idea what that is from but assuming 24/7, that is £910 to track down - any tips?

chris_n

michaels said:

Sorry to keep hijacking your thread MariaH

Did some quick readings using the smart meter display rather than the energy meter socket just to get some rule of thumb numbers:
All pricing based on 52p per unit or 1 w 24/7 for a year = £4.55

Main room TV (65): 130w, DW tends to watch a lot in the day then we all watch a bit in the evening - say 8 hours per day = £195
DS TV (40): 170w, say 3 hours per day = £96
DD2 TV (watches youtube etc through PC so that included too): 300-500w!!! 4 hours per day? = £265

Some quick wins there such as getting DD2 a laptop (£50 of facebook market place/ebay) that will run 50w rather than the 250-450 the PC runs, and suggesting DW watches TV on the smaller TV in the lounge.

WE also seem to have a 200w background overnight, no  idea what that is from but assuming 24/7, that is £910 to track down - any tips?

You have some very high use TV's there! I asked my daughter to measure some TV's last week a Samsung QLED (55?) came out at over 150W, her Samsung LED (42) was about 50W so a saving of around £125 allowing 8 hours a day at Oct rates.

Alnat1

Alarm system, CCTV, fish tank pump, TV set top box, dishwasher/washer/dryer and other devices not off at plug, several phone chargers, Alexa type gadgets, doorbell if wired, outdoor lighting, microwave/cooker with clocks on......

I'm sure others can think of more possibilities.

michaels

Alnat1 said:

Alarm system, CCTV, fish tank pump, TV set top box, dishwasher/washer/dryer and other devices not off at plug, several phone chargers, Alexa type gadgets, doorbell if wired, outdoor lighting, microwave/cooker with clocks on......

I'm sure others can think of more possibilities.

Most standby devices/chargers are of order 0.5 - 5w - say 2w on average = 100 devices for a 200w load.

WE keep one light on that I think is 5w or less led bulb, also another ornament light that I need to check but suspect less than 10w, probably less than 5w.  Perhaps I will try switching off a circuit at a time on the consumer unit to narrow things down.

michaels

chris_n said:

michaels said:

Sorry to keep hijacking your thread MariaH

Did some quick readings using the smart meter display rather than the energy meter socket just to get some rule of thumb numbers:
All pricing based on 52p per unit or 1 w 24/7 for a year = £4.55

Main room TV (65): 130w, DW tends to watch a lot in the day then we all watch a bit in the evening - say 8 hours per day = £195
DS TV (40): 170w, say 3 hours per day = £96
DD2 TV (watches youtube etc through PC so that included too): 300-500w!!! 4 hours per day? = £265

Some quick wins there such as getting DD2 a laptop (£50 of facebook market place/ebay) that will run 50w rather than the 250-450 the PC runs, and suggesting DW watches TV on the smaller TV in the lounge.

WE also seem to have a 200w background overnight, no  idea what that is from but assuming 24/7, that is £910 to track down - any tips?

You have some very high use TV's there! I asked my daughter to measure some TV's last week a Samsung QLED (55?) came out at over 150W, her Samsung LED (42) was about 50W so a saving of around £125 allowing 8 hours a day at Oct rates.

The 32 lcd in my daughters bedroom pulls 55w, about the same as the 24 inch monitor I am using for work.  I thought 130w for the 65 inch TV seems similar given it is 4x the screen area.  The 170w for the 40 does seem high, it is old and was very cheap.

Alnat1

Get a monitor, then you know and you're not guessing

Mstty

Maybe start your own thread?

chris_n

michaels said:

chris_n said:

michaels said:

Sorry to keep hijacking your thread MariaH

Did some quick readings using the smart meter display rather than the energy meter socket just to get some rule of thumb numbers:
All pricing based on 52p per unit or 1 w 24/7 for a year = £4.55

Main room TV (65): 130w, DW tends to watch a lot in the day then we all watch a bit in the evening - say 8 hours per day = £195
DS TV (40): 170w, say 3 hours per day = £96
DD2 TV (watches youtube etc through PC so that included too): 300-500w!!! 4 hours per day? = £265

Some quick wins there such as getting DD2 a laptop (£50 of facebook market place/ebay) that will run 50w rather than the 250-450 the PC runs, and suggesting DW watches TV on the smaller TV in the lounge.

WE also seem to have a 200w background overnight, no  idea what that is from but assuming 24/7, that is £910 to track down - any tips?

You have some very high use TV's there! I asked my daughter to measure some TV's last week a Samsung QLED (55?) came out at over 150W, her Samsung LED (42) was about 50W so a saving of around £125 allowing 8 hours a day at Oct rates.

The 32 lcd in my daughters bedroom pulls 55w, about the same as the 24 inch monitor I am using for work.  I thought 130w for the 65 inch TV seems similar given it is 4x the screen area.  The 170w for the 40 does seem high, it is old and was very cheap.

Seems LED is the way to go then!