Oct price cap increase likely to push energy bill to over £10k... for a family of 4...

Mstty

This has been mentioned before lol

Probably left the desktop machine mining inefficiently

Unless you find something like this hanging about

TheGardener

Alnat1 said:

Do your washer/dishwasher have Eco settings? Use them when you can. They take hours, sometimes it's a pain but does save a bit.

Actually - not necessarily the way to go. I had a conversation with the maker of my dishwasher and they said the 'eco' mode was a "balance between energy usage and performance" and that the hotter but shorter quick wash on my machine 'may' use less energy but the cleaning performance would not be so good. It was a conversation that was a bit like pulling teeth as they kept talking about averages and performance but the technician who eventually answered my query with refreshing condor conceded that on my particular model, I would use less energy using the hot fast wash (60mins) rather than the long eco wash (215 mins)  I really don't mind if there is the odd knife that needs a re-run. Unfortunately, I can't use a tapo plug easily on this device as the socket is behind the machine and there is an isolator switch at the work surface level rather than a traditional socket. 
The key point here is that the manufacturer in this case includes 'performance' as part of the calculation criteria for the 'eco' mode  - not just a straight kwh measurement.  

Alnat1

Ok, maybe not all dishwashers then. I referred to user guide which gave energy use for each program.

sienew

chris_n said:

Don't recall (may have missed it) any mention of an iMac for 8 hours a day, depending on model that could well be another kWh or more.

This is my thoughts. Seems like a lot in this thread want to blame one specific item but to me it seems like a family of people all using a lot of energy. Sure, the gaming PC will be using a lot but so will an imac all day, 2 washes, an American fridge freezer running, charging cars ect. There are a lot of other things that use a lot of energy too that haven't been brought up in these posts that the OP probably uses. To me it feels like high usage across the board.

It doesn't seem to me like it's a situation where one item* can be turned off and the bills will crash. Usage going down would require everyone being more careful and making an effort to use less.

*unless there is crypto mining going on but that doesn't seem particularly likely but still worth double checking

TheGardener

Alnat1 said:

Ok, maybe not all dishwashers then. I referred to user guide which gave energy use for each program.

I did too initially but it did not have the clarity yours did - hence the approach to customer services

sully1311

TheGardener said:

Alnat1 said:

Do your washer/dishwasher have Eco settings? Use them when you can. They take hours, sometimes it's a pain but does save a bit.

Actually - not necessarily the way to go. I had a conversation with the maker of my dishwasher and they said the 'eco' mode was a "balance between energy usage and performance" and that the hotter but shorter quick wash on my machine 'may' use less energy but the cleaning performance would not be so good. It was a conversation that was a bit like pulling teeth as they kept talking about averages and performance but the technician who eventually answered my query with refreshing condor conceded that on my particular model, I would use less energy using the hot fast wash (60mins) rather than the long eco wash (215 mins)  I really don't mind if there is the odd knife that needs a re-run. Unfortunately, I can't use a tapo plug easily on this device as the socket is behind the machine and there is an isolator switch at the work surface level rather than a traditional socket. 
The key point here is that the manufacturer in this case includes 'performance' as part of the calculation criteria for the 'eco' mode  - not just a straight kwh measurement.  

Doesn't your dishwasher manual tell you the power consumption of all of the modes? Mine does, and the eco setting uses the least amount of energy compared to all of the others.

TheGardener

sully1311 said:

TheGardener said:

Alnat1 said:

Do your washer/dishwasher have Eco settings? Use them when you can. They take hours, sometimes it's a pain but does save a bit.

Actually - not necessarily the way to go. I had a conversation with the maker of my dishwasher and they said the 'eco' mode was a "balance between energy usage and performance" and that the hotter but shorter quick wash on my machine 'may' use less energy but the cleaning performance would not be so good. It was a conversation that was a bit like pulling teeth as they kept talking about averages and performance but the technician who eventually answered my query with refreshing condor conceded that on my particular model, I would use less energy using the hot fast wash (60mins) rather than the long eco wash (215 mins)  I really don't mind if there is the odd knife that needs a re-run. Unfortunately, I can't use a tapo plug easily on this device as the socket is behind the machine and there is an isolator switch at the work surface level rather than a traditional socket. 
The key point here is that the manufacturer in this case includes 'performance' as part of the calculation criteria for the 'eco' mode  - not just a straight kwh measurement.  

Doesn't your dishwasher manual tell you the power consumption of all of the modes? Mine does, and the eco setting uses the least amount of energy compared to all of the others.

Sadly not. The machine is an integrated model purchased with the kitchen 5 years ago. Although some info is given, it gives 'averages over 100 cycles' That's why I contacted the manufacturer to clarify usage. 

Mstty

sienew said:

chris_n said:

Don't recall (may have missed it) any mention of an iMac for 8 hours a day, depending on model that could well be another kWh or more.

This is my thoughts. Seems like a lot in this thread want to blame one specific item but to me it seems like a family of people all using a lot of energy. Sure, the gaming PC will be using a lot but so will an imac all day, 2 washes, an American fridge freezer running, charging cars ect. There are a lot of other things that use a lot of energy too that haven't been brought up in these posts that the OP probably uses. To me it feels like high usage across the board.

It doesn't seem to me like it's a situation where one item* can be turned off and the bills will crash. Usage going down would require everyone being more careful and making an effort to use less.

*unless there is crypto mining going on but that doesn't seem particularly likely but still worth double checking

All of those have been mentioned and listed earlier in the thread to be honest. The iMac only came out the woodwork yesterday👍

Try page 3 when the OP answers a long list of questions.

michaels

sienew said:

chris_n said:

Don't recall (may have missed it) any mention of an iMac for 8 hours a day, depending on model that could well be another kWh or more.

This is my thoughts. Seems like a lot in this thread want to blame one specific item but to me it seems like a family of people all using a lot of energy. Sure, the gaming PC will be using a lot but so will an imac all day, 2 washes, an American fridge freezer running, charging cars ect. There are a lot of other things that use a lot of energy too that haven't been brought up in these posts that the OP probably uses. To me it feels like high usage across the board.

It doesn't seem to me like it's a situation where one item* can be turned off and the bills will crash. Usage going down would require everyone being more careful and making an effort to use less.

*unless there is crypto mining going on but that doesn't seem particularly likely but still worth double checking

Our American Fridge Freezer claims to only use about 1kwh per day although we haven't checked this.

Alnat1

@michaels Mine claimed just over 400kWh/yr, bought a Tapo and 48 hours later found out it was going to be using almost 900kWh/yr. The FF was 14 year old. It's now in AO's graveyard.