Getting married for tax purposes

GaleSF63

Sncjw said:

tryingtomove_2 said:

Thank you all for your kind responses.
The Wills do have a bit put in that they would still be valid  if we were to marry😂. Will update them anyway after
 I forgot about the Civil partnership was  now available to heterosexual couples, would ideally take this  route. Yes I wouldn't want our names to be on display at the  local office, so looks like a bit further afield. 
    

Why. I doubt anyone actually goes and looks. 

Why do you want to keep it hush hush. 

I had to give notice in January but the office was only open for appointments. Bizarrely they still out the notices up but don't let people just walk in. 

If you want to get married further afield you still need to do notice in local area if you live there. You would need to actually live in the new area for least 7 days and then wait 29 before actually getting married.

Oh yes they do!  Perhaps more common in small towns though where the chances are that a nosey neighbour (in our case) is likely to see names they recognise on a regular basis.
Edited to add - at that time, though I don't know about now, the notices were displayed in the window so there was no need to go inside. 

TonyMMM

The publication of notices ( or the reading of banns) to stop marriages being held in secret has been part of the law on marriage in England/Wales since 1753 and there is no way around that ( unless you marry abroad). The system also applies to Civil Partnerships too. The process has to be done in the district in which you live.


As far as choosing a marriage or CP goes there is no real practical difference at all between them in the UK. The only issue can be that there are a still a few countries (including some in Europe) who don't fully recognises a CP as valid or equal to marriage.

sheramber

Sncjw said:

tryingtomove_2 said:

Thank you all for your kind responses.
The Wills do have a bit put in that they would still be valid  if we were to marry😂. Will update them anyway after
 I forgot about the Civil partnership was  now available to heterosexual couples, would ideally take this  route. Yes I wouldn't want our names to be on display at the  local office, so looks like a bit further afield. 
    

Why. I doubt anyone actually goes and looks. 

Why do you want to keep it hush hush. 

I had to give notice in January but the office was only open for appointments. Bizarrely they still out the notices up but don't let people just walk in. 

If you want to get married further afield you still need to do notice in local area if you live there. You would need to actually live in the new area for least 7 days and then wait 29 before actually getting married.

Have you never heard of eloping to Gretna Green?

Easy access across the border and no residence requirement. 

Plenty of companies to help arrange it for you.

sheramber

Sncjw said:

tryingtomove_2 said:

Thank you all for your kind responses.
The Wills do have a bit put in that they would still be valid  if we were to marry😂. Will update them anyway after
 I forgot about the Civil partnership was  now available to heterosexual couples, would ideally take this  route. Yes I wouldn't want our names to be on display at the  local office, so looks like a bit further afield. 
    

Why. I doubt anyone actually goes and looks. 

Why do you want to keep it hush hush. 

Maybe people think they are married already.

macman

sheramber said:

Sncjw said:

tryingtomove_2 said:

Thank you all for your kind responses.
The Wills do have a bit put in that they would still be valid  if we were to marry😂. Will update them anyway after
 I forgot about the Civil partnership was  now available to heterosexual couples, would ideally take this  route. Yes I wouldn't want our names to be on display at the  local office, so looks like a bit further afield. 
    

Why. I doubt anyone actually goes and looks. 

Why do you want to keep it hush hush. 

I had to give notice in January but the office was only open for appointments. Bizarrely they still out the notices up but don't let people just walk in. 

If you want to get married further afield you still need to do notice in local area if you live there. You would need to actually live in the new area for least 7 days and then wait 29 before actually getting married.

Have you never heard of eloping to Gretna Green?

Easy access across the border and no residence requirement. 

Plenty of companies to help arrange it for you.

You still have to give a minimum 29 days notice for Gretna Green. You can't just turn up and get spliced.
If the OP wants to be really anonymous, the only option is to go abroad, but do make it somewhere that is then recognised by the UK as a valid form of marriage. Jerry Hall made that mistake...
I don't really get the need for all the subterfuge though. If you got married, say, 25 miles away from home, no one locally is likely to know about it anyway.

TripleH

We had friends marry for tax and visa purposes (she's Irish, he's Scottish) as they worked in mainland Europe.

They'd been together for years but decided for practical reasons it made sense.

They had a very brief registry wedding with 4 guests and 2 witnesses.

Silvertabby

What about a few days in Las Vegas?

sheramber

macman said:

sheramber said:

Sncjw said:

tryingtomove_2 said:

Thank you all for your kind responses.
The Wills do have a bit put in that they would still be valid  if we were to marry😂. Will update them anyway after
 I forgot about the Civil partnership was  now available to heterosexual couples, would ideally take this  route. Yes I wouldn't want our names to be on display at the  local office, so looks like a bit further afield. 
    

Why. I doubt anyone actually goes and looks. 

Why do you want to keep it hush hush. 

I had to give notice in January but the office was only open for appointments. Bizarrely they still out the notices up but don't let people just walk in. 

If you want to get married further afield you still need to do notice in local area if you live there. You would need to actually live in the new area for least 7 days and then wait 29 before actually getting married.

Have you never heard of eloping to Gretna Green?

Easy access across the border and no residence requirement. 

Plenty of companies to help arrange it for you.

You still have to give a minimum 29 days notice for Gretna Green. You can't just turn up and get spliced.
If the OP wants to be really anonymous, the only option is to go abroad, but do make it somewhere that is then recognised by the UK as a valid form of marriage. Jerry Hall made that mistake...
I don't really get the need for all the subterfuge though. If you got married, say, 25 miles away from home, no one locally is likely to know about it anyway.

Giving notice does not mean residing in the place. 

DO YOU HAVE TO STAY IN GRETNA GREEN BEFORE THE WEDDING?

No, it is no longer required for a couple to reside in the parish where they wish to marry for any longer than the duration of the ceremony. Back in 1856, a marriage act was introduced which enforced the requirement for one member of the couple to reside in the parish for at least 21 days. This law has since been repealed. Many of our couples like to arrive in Gretna Green and stay at Smiths Hotel or Gretna Hall for a number of days before their wedding day to finalise and relax before their big day.

In England you need to reside in the registry office district for 7 days.

TBagpuss

macman said:

You still have to give a minimum 29 days notice for Gretna Green. You can't just turn up and get spliced.
If the OP wants to be really anonymous, the only option is to go abroad, but do make it somewhere that is then recognised by the UK as a valid form of marriage. Jerry Hall made that mistake...
I don't really get the need for all the subterfuge though. If you got married, say, 25 miles away from home, no one locally is likely to know about it anyway.

A marriage is recognisedas valid in the UK as long as it is valid in the country where it took place. It's if you have a ceremony but don't enure that you comply with any legal paperwork etc which may be necessary, for instance that your run into problems.

That said, if you get married overseas you may have more difficulty as organisations will be less familiar with the papers, what a marraifge certificate 'should' look like, and getting duplicates etc can be harder, so it can create probablems furtherdown the line  

GrahamLM52

Can someone explain exactly what happens when you have a civil partnership ceremony?

Is there a ceremony or do you just sign forms?

I've been on my Local Authority website and they detail what documents you need for a Civil Partnership, how to make an appointment and what the fees are, but everything else refers to Marriage.

For example under the heading "Getting married or form a civil partnership" they state you MUST choose one form of "Declaratory words "These words are required by law to make sure your ceremony is legal. They cannot be changed or left out." eg: I do solemnly declare that I know not of any lawful impediment why I may not be joined in matrimony to (Partner’s name) and "I call upon these persons here present to witness that I do take thee (Partner’s name) to be my lawful wedded wife / husband."

There is absolutely nothing about what actually happens when you arrive at the Register Office for a civil partnership.

Do you just produce the required documents, sign forms and that's it?