Illegal window tint…

QrizB

DanDare999 said:

Can you show us where it over rules Con and Use Regs?

Regulation 4(4) item 2:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/4/made

Appears to disapply Regulation 32, which is the "window tinting" one?

DanDare999

QrizB said:

DanDare999 said:

Can you show us where it over rules Con and Use Regs?

Regulation 4(4) item 2:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/4/made

Appears to disapply Regulation 32, which is the "window tinting" one?

I don't see Reg 32.

The regulations in Part II insofar as they relate to construction and equipment except regulations 7, 8, 9(2), 10, 40, 53 and 57(3) and (4).

Regulations 66 to 69 and 71. 

QrizB

DanDare999 said:

QrizB said:

DanDare999 said:

Can you show us where it over rules Con and Use Regs?

Regulation 4(4) item 2:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/4/made

Appears to disapply Regulation 32, which is the "window tinting" one?

I don't see Reg 32.

The regulations in Part II insofar as they relate to construction and equipment except regulations 7, 8, 9(2), 10, 40, 53 and 57(3) and (4).

Regulations 66 to 69 and 71. 

They are exempted from "The regulations in Part II insofar as they relate to construction and equipment except regulations 7, 8, 9(2), 10, 40, 53 and 57(3) and (4)."

Regulation 32 isn't one of the exceptions, so they are exempted.

(This might not be obvious if English isn't your first language.)

yessuz

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DanDare999 said:

Can you show us where it over rules Con and Use Regs?

Don't be silly. If it's on Wikipedia it must be true ....

Look, feel free to read all Vienna convention for road traffic text.

I cannot be arsed, really.

but as it was said above, regulation 32 does not apply

TooManyPoints

Regulation 32 isn't one of the exceptions, so they are exempted.

I think you have it the wrong way round.

"The regulations specified in an item in column 3 of the Table do not apply in respect of a vehicle of a class specified in that item in column 2."

Column 2 includes "A vehicle brought temporarily into Great Britain by a person resident abroad,..." (so the sort of vehicle we're talking about here). Alongside that, in column 3 (headed "regulations which do not apply"), is a list of the regulations from which such a vehicle is exempt. Regulation 32 is not on that list, so it applies to this vehicle.

NBLondon

TooManyPoints said:

Column 2 includes "A vehicle brought temporarily into Great Britain by a person resident abroad,..." 

I wonder if the definition of temporary is significant.  You've brought the vehicle in on a holiday or business trip is one thing; you've moved here and brought the car over with you but not formally imported and re-registered it is another.

Car_54

NBLondon said:

TooManyPoints said:

Column 2 includes "A vehicle brought temporarily into Great Britain by a person resident abroad,..." 

I wonder if the definition of temporary is significant.  You've brought the vehicle in on a holiday or business trip is one thing; you've moved here and brought the car over with you but not formally imported and re-registered it is another.

If you've moved here you're not "a person resident abroad".

yessuz

TooManyPoints said:

Regulation 32 isn't one of the exceptions, so they are exempted.

I think you have it the wrong way round.

"The regulations specified in an item in column 3 of the Table do not apply in respect of a vehicle of a class specified in that item in column 2."

Column 2 includes "A vehicle brought temporarily into Great Britain by a person resident abroad,..." (so the sort of vehicle we're talking about here). Alongside that, in column 3 (headed "regulations which do not apply"), is a list of the regulations from which such a vehicle is exempt. Regulation 32 is not on that list, so it applies to this vehicle.

Well, NO. The column 3 is "regulations which do not apply"
And text below reads as:

 The regulations in Part II insofar as they relate to construction and equipment except regulations 7, 8, 9(2), 10, 40, 53 and 57(3) and (4).
Regulations 66 to 69 and 71.

Meaning - All regulations in part II (which relate to construction) except the particular regulations, named 7, 8, 9(2), 10, 40, 53, 57(3) and 57(4), as well as regulations 66, 67, 68, 69 and 71

The tinting is in regulation 32 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/32/made), and since it is not in the exception list as above, means this regulation does not apply.

I mean, English is not my native tongue, but it's quite simple to understand it..

[Deleted User] said:

NBLondon said:

TooManyPoints said:

Column 2 includes "A vehicle brought temporarily into Great Britain by a person resident abroad,..." 

I wonder if the definition of temporary is significant.  You've brought the vehicle in on a holiday or business trip is one thing; you've moved here and brought the car over with you but not formally imported and re-registered it is another.

If you've moved here you're not "a person resident abroad".

If you have not declared residency - you are temporary visiting. I think this applies up to 183 days. after 183 days - you become a resident.

DanDare999

yessuz said:

TooManyPoints said:

Regulation 32 isn't one of the exceptions, so they are exempted.

I think you have it the wrong way round.

"The regulations specified in an item in column 3 of the Table do not apply in respect of a vehicle of a class specified in that item in column 2."

Column 2 includes "A vehicle brought temporarily into Great Britain by a person resident abroad,..." (so the sort of vehicle we're talking about here). Alongside that, in column 3 (headed "regulations which do not apply"), is a list of the regulations from which such a vehicle is exempt. Regulation 32 is not on that list, so it applies to this vehicle.

Well, NO. The column 3 is "regulations which do not apply"
And text below reads as:

 The regulations in Part II insofar as they relate to construction and equipment except regulations 7, 8, 9(2), 10, 40, 53 and 57(3) and (4).
Regulations 66 to 69 and 71.

Meaning - All regulations in part II (which relate to construction) except the particular regulations, named 7, 8, 9(2), 10, 40, 53, 57(3) and 57(4), as well as regulations 66, 67, 68, 69 and 71

The tinting is in regulation 32 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/32/made), and since it is not in the exception list as above, means this regulation does not apply.

I mean, English is not my native tongue, but it's quite simple to understand it..

[Deleted User] said:

NBLondon said:

TooManyPoints said:

Column 2 includes "A vehicle brought temporarily into Great Britain by a person resident abroad,..." 

I wonder if the definition of temporary is significant.  You've brought the vehicle in on a holiday or business trip is one thing; you've moved here and brought the car over with you but not formally imported and re-registered it is another.

If you've moved here you're not "a person resident abroad".

If you have not declared residency - you are temporary visiting. I think this applies up to 183 days. after 183 days - you become a resident.

So you're claiming it's those regs that apply and as Reg 32 is not listed then it's exempt?

So a non uk car can ignore 32 window tints, 15 brakes, 24 tyres, 29 steering, 75 weight. I think not.

TooManyPoints

I mean, English is not my native tongue, but it's quite simple to understand it..

Well, English is my native tongue and here's my take on it. The only C&U regulations which do not apply (to vehicles brought temporarily into GB) are listed in Column 3. So by default, all the others do apply. Regulation 32 is not listed in column 3, so it is amongst "all the others". So it applies.

You're quite right about one thing - it really is quite simple to understand it.