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  • Alnat1
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    How many people in the house and how many showers/baths a day?

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  • Robin9
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    mjdrae said:
    ........................ We live in a 3 bed house and i believe the average is around 15000kwh. ..............................
    In a modern house yes but you have an old draughty one -  so double that is quite possible.
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  • Mstty
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    edited 1 August 2022 at 6:42PM
    victor2 said:
    mjdrae said:
    victor2 said:
    So it is an imperial meter. Quite old and I would have thought about due for replacement, but that's another issue, unless it's faulty of course.
    The bill above looks a bit odd. It says 31 days standing charge, but there's only 26 days between the readings. Other than that, the calculation of the kWh looks OK. You have used 32kWh of gas per day in that period. Seems a bit high, but I assume that is mainly hot water for showers or baths.
    You could check how much gas a shower or bath uses by taking meter readings before and after. Multiply the difference in the readings by 32 and you'll get a very close conversion to kWh.
    It is impossible to comment on the supplier's estimate of your annual usage unless you have actual readings close to a year apart.

    Edit: If you do take meter readings for something like a shower, you'll need to record the fractions (red digits and possibly even the dial) to get a more accurate result.
    Does this help. Also worth noting I'm currently £410 in credit and expect that to be well over £500 by end of contract this month.


    It doesn't appear to matter that your meter has "gone round the clock".
    Assuming those are actual readings and not estimates, it works out at nearly 29,000 kWh per year, which does seem high. Hope your electricity usage is nice and low!
    Worth reading your gas meter daily for a while to see how a particular pattern of activity affects the consumption.
    Not sure where you got 29000 kWh for 820 units. It's closer to 26000 kWh. The OP even posted their calorific value👍



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  • mjdrae
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    Alnat1 said:
    How many people in the house and how many showers/baths a day?

    4 people and atleast 2 have a shower every day. 
  • victor2
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    Mstty said:
    Not sure where you got 29000 kWh for 820 units. It's closer to 26000 kWh. The OP even posted their calorific value👍
    It was 820 units over 333 days, I just multiplied it up to get 365 days usage.

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  • mjdrae
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    Mstty said:
    mjdrae said:
    victor2 said:
    So it is an imperial meter. Quite old and I would have thought about due for replacement, but that's another issue, unless it's faulty of course.
    The bill above looks a bit odd. It says 31 days standing charge, but there's only 26 days between the readings. Other than that, the calculation of the kWh looks OK. You have used 32kWh of gas per day in that period. Seems a bit high, but I assume that is mainly hot water for showers or baths.
    You could check how much gas a shower or bath uses by taking meter readings before and after. Multiply the difference in the readings by 32 and you'll get a very close conversion to kWh.
    It is impossible to comment on the supplier's estimate of your annual usage unless you have actual readings close to a year apart.

    Edit: If you do take meter readings for something like a shower, you'll need to record the fractions (red digits and possibly even the dial) to get a more accurate result.
    Does this help. Also worth noting I'm currently £410 in credit and expect that to be well over £500 by end of contract this month.


    Wow is that 26000 kWh of gas a year.

    So what have you look d at the reduce gas usage?
    We had a log burner fitted 18mths ago. The heating is very rarely on these days and then it's just hot water. We have an electric range oven.
    I'm hopeful that making changes will reduce it considerably but it just feels too high for what we use.
  • Mstty
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    edited 1 August 2022 at 6:49PM
    victor2 said:
    Mstty said:
    Not sure where you got 29000 kWh for 820 units. It's closer to 26000 kWh. The OP even posted their calorific value👍
    It was 820 units over 333 days, I just multiplied it up to get 365 days usage.
    Ah gotcha that explains your high figure 👍

    But they were summer days that were missing so I think closer to 27000 kwh

    It's a big difference 2000kwh
  • Mstty
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    mjdrae said:
    Mstty said:
    mjdrae said:
    victor2 said:
    So it is an imperial meter. Quite old and I would have thought about due for replacement, but that's another issue, unless it's faulty of course.
    The bill above looks a bit odd. It says 31 days standing charge, but there's only 26 days between the readings. Other than that, the calculation of the kWh looks OK. You have used 32kWh of gas per day in that period. Seems a bit high, but I assume that is mainly hot water for showers or baths.
    You could check how much gas a shower or bath uses by taking meter readings before and after. Multiply the difference in the readings by 32 and you'll get a very close conversion to kWh.
    It is impossible to comment on the supplier's estimate of your annual usage unless you have actual readings close to a year apart.

    Edit: If you do take meter readings for something like a shower, you'll need to record the fractions (red digits and possibly even the dial) to get a more accurate result.
    Does this help. Also worth noting I'm currently £410 in credit and expect that to be well over £500 by end of contract this month.


    Wow is that 26000 kWh of gas a year.

    So what have you look d at the reduce gas usage?
    We had a log burner fitted 18mths ago. The heating is very rarely on these days and then it's just hot water. We have an electric range oven.
    I'm hopeful that making changes will reduce it considerably but it just feels too high for what we use.
    Have you taken any of the actions suggested in this post like reducing hot water temp?

    Does the household take a lot of baths?

    I presume the showers are not electric showers and are fed from the hot water cylinder?
  • Alnat1
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    Any chance you could all manage not to shower one day and check how much the meter uses. Just in case next door are sharing your supply........
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  • k_man
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    mjdrae said:
    Mstty said:
    mjdrae said:
    victor2 said:
    So it is an imperial meter. Quite old and I would have thought about due for replacement, but that's another issue, unless it's faulty of course.
    The bill above looks a bit odd. It says 31 days standing charge, but there's only 26 days between the readings. Other than that, the calculation of the kWh looks OK. You have used 32kWh of gas per day in that period. Seems a bit high, but I assume that is mainly hot water for showers or baths.
    You could check how much gas a shower or bath uses by taking meter readings before and after. Multiply the difference in the readings by 32 and you'll get a very close conversion to kWh.
    It is impossible to comment on the supplier's estimate of your annual usage unless you have actual readings close to a year apart.

    Edit: If you do take meter readings for something like a shower, you'll need to record the fractions (red digits and possibly even the dial) to get a more accurate result.
    Does this help. Also worth noting I'm currently £410 in credit and expect that to be well over £500 by end of contract this month.


    Wow is that 26000 kWh of gas a year.

    So what have you look d at the reduce gas usage?
    We had a log burner fitted 18mths ago. The heating is very rarely on these days and then it's just hot water. We have an electric range oven.
    I'm hopeful that making changes will reduce it considerably but it just feels too high for what we use.
    That is odd, as your gas usage is much higher in winter, up to 100kWh per day, which is high, but possible if heating were included.
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