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Capital Gains help.

Snookie12cat
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edited 27 July 2022 at 4:09PM in House buying, renting & selling
Can someone advise if I would need to pay capital gains please.

I moved out of my old residential house 5 months ago. I have sold it now but it was empty for a 5 month period while this took place.

Do I have to pay capital gains?

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  • Slithery
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    If it was your main residence for the entire time apart from the last 5 months then no - you get 9 months 'free' as part of your CGT allowance.
  • Snookie12cat
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    Slithery said:
    If it was your main residence for the entire time apart from the last 5 months then no - you get 9 months 'free' as part of your CGT allowance.
    Thank you - say the sale falls through (I am very optimistic is saying its a done deal)... and the 9 months passes, then how would the tax be payable? Would I be liable for the entire increase in the value that I owned it (12 years), or just the time its sat empty?
  • RAS
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    Just for

    (the whole time) - (your occupancy + 9 months)  = a month or three?

    Bear in mind that you have a £12,300 p.a CT allowance. 
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Snookie12cat
    Snookie12cat Posts: 805 Forumite
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    RAS said:
    Just for

    (the whole time) - (your occupancy + 9 months)  = a month or three?

    Bear in mind that you have a £12,300 p.a CT allowance. 
    Thank you - nothing to worry about then :D 
  • RAS
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    edited 27 July 2022 at 5:32PM
    RAS said:
    Just for

    (the whole time) - (your occupancy + 9 months)  = a month or three?

    Bear in mind that you have a £12,300 p.a CT allowance. 
    Thank you - nothing to worry about then :D 
    Unless you're also selling a load of stocks and shares, or the da Vinci.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • RAS said:
    Just for

    (the whole time) - (your occupancy + 9 months)  = a month or three?

    Bear in mind that you have a £12,300 p.a CT allowance. 
    So say for example:
    - you bought house A on 1 Jan 2012 for £100,000
    - lived in it for 10 years until 1 Jan 2022
    - you bought and moved into house B on 1 Jan 2022
    - put house A on the market on 1 Jan 2022 but didn't manage to sell it for 12 months, selling it for £150,000

    Is it possible to work out the likely CGT bill (assuming you have no other dealings in scope of CGT)? No renting or letting involved - just purely buying your new home before selling your old one. 



  • p00hsticks
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    edited 7 January 2023 at 10:59PM
    RAS said:
    Just for

    (the whole time) - (your occupancy + 9 months)  = a month or three?

    Bear in mind that you have a £12,300 p.a CT allowance. 
    So say for example:
    - you bought house A on 1 Jan 2012 for £100,000
    - lived in it for 10 years until 1 Jan 2022
    - you bought and moved into house B on 1 Jan 2022
    - put house A on the market on 1 Jan 2022 but didn't manage to sell it for 12 months, selling it for £150,000

    Is it possible to work out the likely CGT bill (assuming you have no other dealings in scope of CGT)? No renting or letting involved - just purely buying your new home before selling your old one. 




    Yes it is.

    (It'll be zero).
  • RAS said:
    Just for

    (the whole time) - (your occupancy + 9 months)  = a month or three?

    Bear in mind that you have a £12,300 p.a CT allowance. 
    So say for example:
    - you bought house A on 1 Jan 2012 for £100,000
    - lived in it for 10 years until 1 Jan 2022
    - you bought and moved into house B on 1 Jan 2022
    - put house A on the market on 1 Jan 2022 but didn't manage to sell it for 12 months, selling it for £150,000

    Is it possible to work out the likely CGT bill (assuming you have no other dealings in scope of CGT)? No renting or letting involved - just purely buying your new home before selling your old one. 




    Yes it is.

    (It'll be zero).
    Ok so my attempt to show the workings for this example:

    - Whole time house owned = 132 months.
    - House occupied as main residence = 120 months, plus 9 months grace period = 129 months.
    - Therefore CGT applicable for 3/132 months.
    - £50,000 overall profit on house x 3/132 = £1136.36 capital gain
    - As this is well inside the £12,300 p.a. allowance, no CGT payable.

    Does that sound about right?
  • p00hsticks
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    RAS said:
    Just for

    (the whole time) - (your occupancy + 9 months)  = a month or three?

    Bear in mind that you have a £12,300 p.a CT allowance. 
    So say for example:
    - you bought house A on 1 Jan 2012 for £100,000
    - lived in it for 10 years until 1 Jan 2022
    - you bought and moved into house B on 1 Jan 2022
    - put house A on the market on 1 Jan 2022 but didn't manage to sell it for 12 months, selling it for £150,000

    Is it possible to work out the likely CGT bill (assuming you have no other dealings in scope of CGT)? No renting or letting involved - just purely buying your new home before selling your old one. 




    Yes it is.

    (It'll be zero).
    Ok so my attempt to show the workings for this example:

    - Whole time house owned = 132 months.
    - House occupied as main residence = 120 months, plus 9 months grace period = 129 months.
    - Therefore CGT applicable for 3/132 months.
    - £50,000 overall profit on house x 3/132 = £1136.36 capital gain
    - As this is well inside the £12,300 p.a. allowance, no CGT payable.

    Does that sound about right?

    Looks good to me.
    And you can deduct the buying and selling costs from that £50,000 as well, to reduce the notional gain figure even further.
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